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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 18:26 GMT (UK) »

looks like we are on the right track -will do more digging

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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 18:32 GMT (UK) »

Found Alice -but Aaron not at home (by the way -Aaron not all that uncommon -biblical name)

1901
65 Holdgate terr
Ludlow

Alice Cooper Head M 21? (transcribed 29) Ludlow Salop

RG13 2504 99 27

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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 20:04 GMT (UK) »

There are a few Aaron Coopers -b Wales/Staffs

Think you will have to get another marriage cert to discover his father???

He could be absent on 1901 if he was in the Armed services -so many men are absent in 1901 because of the Boer War.

Meanwhile I think I have found Alice Hughes' family-although ages vary from census to census-just down the road from Alice in 1901

1901
77 Holdgate terr
Ludlow
Richard Hughes Head M 60 Coal merchant own ac Wigmore hereford
Mary A wife 58 Ludlow
Richard son 24 M Gen lab Ludlow
Jane daughter in law M 22 Orleton? Salop
George son U 20 Coal merchant own a/c Ludlow
RG13 2504 100 29

1891
77 Holdgate Terr
Ludlow
Richard hughes head M 50 Gen lab
mary A wife 40? (46?)
John son Gen lab
Richard son 13 Scholar
George son 9 scholar
ALICE daughter 11 Scholar
all b. Ludlow
RG12 2081 63 24

1881
1 Portcullis Rd
Ludlow
Richard Hughes Head M 37 gen lab Wigmore hereford
Mary A wife 36 Ludlow
John son 8 Ludlow
Jane daughter 6 Ludlow
Richard son 4 Ludlow
ALICE daughter 1 Ludlow
RG11 2615 55 16

marriage
Mar qtr 1864
Ludlow
on same page
Richard hughes
Mary Ann Ward
6a 789

1871
Upper galford?
Ludlow
Richard Hughes head M 25 lab Wigmore hereford
Mary A 24 Ludlow
Mary A daughter 5 Ludlow
Eliizabeth daughter 3 Ludlow
Sarah daughter 4 mth Ludlow
RG10 2725 71 8

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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #18 on: Monday 28 January 08 21:21 GMT (UK) »

gosh you are good. marriage cert for Aaron cooper(35) and Alice Hughes(20) died at 38. married in may 1899 Aaron Father James Cooper (deceased) Alice father Richard Hughes well done  both at Oldgate Tee Ludlow.
Interestingly witnesses are William James Oliver and Jesssie Humphreys not names i have spotted.

again thanks for help coming together nicely for mums suprise

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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #19 on: Monday 28 January 08 22:09 GMT (UK) »

here we go -I have a theory!!!!!!!!!!!

I have found an Aaron Cooper -who fits the bill -hereford/Radnor Wales /Ludlow connections -father James-died between 1871-81 (haven't looked his birth up yet) but......

this Aaron -only one I can find in England/Wales who "fits" was b. abt 1860 -which would make him 39 at marriage

It's very possible the marriage cert has been mistranscribed at some stage - I have come across a 9 being transcribed as 5 (and vice versa) on quite a few occasions (even on FreeBMD-volume page nos)
My grandfather was 36 when he married but the cert has been mistranscribed as 30 (similar problem with 6 & 0)

I have this family from 1851-1891 - but Aaron is not at home after 1871-will search for him again.

What was his occupation on the marriage cert???

and was he a bachelor???

and would you like the census I have found -I have a really good feeling about them -but it's up to you to decide?Huh??

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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #20 on: Monday 28 January 08 22:40 GMT (UK) »

that would be great thanx loads. You have been right so far. Marriage cert says bachelor and occupation as labourer
that makes sense on age as well. would love to know more on these people as it seems unusual for a widower to bring up 4 children on his own in that day and why is he so hard to find?. Have photo of him looking very dignified with hat and kravate and looks well.
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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #21 on: Monday 28 January 08 22:50 GMT (UK) »

I can't find him in 1881/91/01 checked England /Wales -but not Scotland

Will post info in about 30 mins - need a coffee!

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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #22 on: Monday 28 January 08 22:52 GMT (UK) »

i am not surprised caffeine works for me as well  Smiley

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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 00:31 GMT (UK) »

Still not found Aaron -!!!

Here we go -this is the family pre Aaron's birth

1851
Llanhowell
Clunbury
Shropshire
James Cooper Head M 29ag lab Puddleston hereford
Elizabeth wife 29 Llandrindod Radnorshire
Margaret daughter 5 Puddleton hereford
Hannah daughter 3 Badstone Salop
Mary daughter 5mth Clunbury herford
HO107 1983 66 33

1861` -with Aaron

Ludlow Rd
Shropshire
James Cooper  head M 39 ag lab Puddletstone hereford
Elizabeth wife 40 Llandrindod Radnor
Hannah daughter 13 Bedston Salop
Mary daughter 10 Clunbury Salop
Martha daughter 6 Clunnennford? Salop
Aaron son 1 Hepton Salop
RG9 1834 58 13

1871 -with Aaron
James Cooper head M 49 lab Puddlestone Hereford
Elizabeth wife 50 Radnor
Aaron son 11 Hepton Salop
RG10 2726 23 14

1881-
Silk Mill Lane
Shropshire
Priscilla Anthony head W 54 Landerwine hereford
Thomas Anthony son U 27 Painter's lab Brimfield Hereford
Eliza Cooper Boarder W 60 Llandrindod Rad
RG11 2614 120 16

1891
29 Old St? Gt
Ludlow
Elizabeth Cooper Head W 70 Llandrindod Radnor
RG12 2081 53 3

I'll look for the Olivers and Humphreys -see if they hold any clues???

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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 00:40 GMT (UK) »

caffeine worked! he is entriqing tho isnt he
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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 00:55 GMT (UK) »

I'll smack his bottom when we find him!!!

Possible for witness
25 Castle Knowles
Castle View
East hamlet
Ludlow
maria Hutchings head W 64 Living on own means Devonport
Charlotte E daughter U 26 Welshpool Montgomeryshire
Midred E daughter U 22 Welshpool
Thomas W son U 29 Bank Cashier Ludlow
Kathleen Sheppard daughter M 23 Welshpool
Thomas Sheppard grandson 1 Bridgewater Salop
JESSIE HUMPHREYS servant 16 U  General DomesticCulmington Salop
RG13 2503 28 12

there is also a 25 yr old Jessie Humphries in Pontesbury

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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 00:58 GMT (UK) »

I have found a birth reg
William James Oliver
Dec qtr 1878
Tenbury
6c 289

and a marriage reg
Dec qtr 1902
Tenbury
William james Oliver
Mary Elizabeth Powles
6c 443

but there are so many William Olivers/James Olivers on census it is difficult to know which is which

Having another look for Aaron

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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 01:05 GMT (UK) »

he must of been up to no good they moved around alot but only in a 30mile radius it seems so i would go for the culmington Jessie.
He doesnt look like a labourer from his photo but he was never talked about.

Cert says william James Oliver and tenbury close by. shouldnt laugh but googled the area and this area was full of highway men Smiley

now i  am getting confused  Smiley
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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 01:13 GMT (UK) »

I wonder if he used an alias?Huh?

I think I'll look for his siblings and see if he's anywhere around

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Re: goodman shropshire look up
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 01:23 GMT (UK) »

did may people use an alias then?been up since 5 today so sorry if sounding confused but he really is annoying me lol Cool
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