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looks like we are on the right track -will do more digging
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Found Alice -but Aaron not at home (by the way -Aaron not all that uncommon -biblical name)
1901 65 Holdgate terr Ludlow
Alice Cooper Head M 21? (transcribed 29) Ludlow Salop
RG13 2504 99 27
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There are a few Aaron Coopers -b Wales/Staffs
Think you will have to get another marriage cert to discover his father???
He could be absent on 1901 if he was in the Armed services -so many men are absent in 1901 because of the Boer War.
Meanwhile I think I have found Alice Hughes' family-although ages vary from census to census-just down the road from Alice in 1901
1901 77 Holdgate terr Ludlow Richard Hughes Head M 60 Coal merchant own ac Wigmore hereford Mary A wife 58 Ludlow Richard son 24 M Gen lab Ludlow Jane daughter in law M 22 Orleton? Salop George son U 20 Coal merchant own a/c Ludlow RG13 2504 100 29
1891 77 Holdgate Terr Ludlow Richard hughes head M 50 Gen lab mary A wife 40? (46?) John son Gen lab Richard son 13 Scholar George son 9 scholar ALICE daughter 11 Scholar all b. Ludlow RG12 2081 63 24
1881 1 Portcullis Rd Ludlow Richard Hughes Head M 37 gen lab Wigmore hereford Mary A wife 36 Ludlow John son 8 Ludlow Jane daughter 6 Ludlow Richard son 4 Ludlow ALICE daughter 1 Ludlow RG11 2615 55 16
marriage Mar qtr 1864 Ludlow on same page Richard hughes Mary Ann Ward 6a 789
1871 Upper galford? Ludlow Richard Hughes head M 25 lab Wigmore hereford Mary A 24 Ludlow Mary A daughter 5 Ludlow Eliizabeth daughter 3 Ludlow Sarah daughter 4 mth Ludlow RG10 2725 71 8
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gosh you are good. marriage cert for Aaron cooper(35) and Alice Hughes(20) died at 38. married in may 1899 Aaron Father James Cooper (deceased) Alice father Richard Hughes well done both at Oldgate Tee Ludlow. Interestingly witnesses are William James Oliver and Jesssie Humphreys not names i have spotted.
again thanks for help coming together nicely for mums suprise
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here we go -I have a theory!!!!!!!!!!!
I have found an Aaron Cooper -who fits the bill -hereford/Radnor Wales /Ludlow connections -father James-died between 1871-81 (haven't looked his birth up yet) but......
this Aaron -only one I can find in England/Wales who "fits" was b. abt 1860 -which would make him 39 at marriage
It's very possible the marriage cert has been mistranscribed at some stage - I have come across a 9 being transcribed as 5 (and vice versa) on quite a few occasions (even on FreeBMD-volume page nos) My grandfather was 36 when he married but the cert has been mistranscribed as 30 (similar problem with 6 & 0)
I have this family from 1851-1891 - but Aaron is not at home after 1871-will search for him again.
What was his occupation on the marriage cert???
and was he a bachelor???
and would you like the census I have found -I have a really good feeling about them -but it's up to you to decide? ??
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that would be great thanx loads. You have been right so far. Marriage cert says bachelor and occupation as labourer that makes sense on age as well. would love to know more on these people as it seems unusual for a widower to bring up 4 children on his own in that day and why is he so hard to find?. Have photo of him looking very dignified with hat and kravate and looks well. wendy
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I can't find him in 1881/91/01 checked England /Wales -but not Scotland
Will post info in about 30 mins - need a coffee!
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i am not surprised caffeine works for me as well 
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Still not found Aaron -!!!
Here we go -this is the family pre Aaron's birth
1851 Llanhowell Clunbury Shropshire James Cooper Head M 29ag lab Puddleston hereford Elizabeth wife 29 Llandrindod Radnorshire Margaret daughter 5 Puddleton hereford Hannah daughter 3 Badstone Salop Mary daughter 5mth Clunbury herford HO107 1983 66 33
1861` -with Aaron
Ludlow Rd Shropshire James Cooper head M 39 ag lab Puddletstone hereford Elizabeth wife 40 Llandrindod Radnor Hannah daughter 13 Bedston Salop Mary daughter 10 Clunbury Salop Martha daughter 6 Clunnennford? Salop Aaron son 1 Hepton Salop RG9 1834 58 13
1871 -with Aaron James Cooper head M 49 lab Puddlestone Hereford Elizabeth wife 50 Radnor Aaron son 11 Hepton Salop RG10 2726 23 14
1881- Silk Mill Lane Shropshire Priscilla Anthony head W 54 Landerwine hereford Thomas Anthony son U 27 Painter's lab Brimfield Hereford Eliza Cooper Boarder W 60 Llandrindod Rad RG11 2614 120 16
1891 29 Old St? Gt Ludlow Elizabeth Cooper Head W 70 Llandrindod Radnor RG12 2081 53 3
I'll look for the Olivers and Humphreys -see if they hold any clues???
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caffeine worked! he is entriqing tho isnt he
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I'll smack his bottom when we find him!!!
Possible for witness 25 Castle Knowles Castle View East hamlet Ludlow maria Hutchings head W 64 Living on own means Devonport Charlotte E daughter U 26 Welshpool Montgomeryshire Midred E daughter U 22 Welshpool Thomas W son U 29 Bank Cashier Ludlow Kathleen Sheppard daughter M 23 Welshpool Thomas Sheppard grandson 1 Bridgewater Salop JESSIE HUMPHREYS servant 16 U General DomesticCulmington Salop RG13 2503 28 12
there is also a 25 yr old Jessie Humphries in Pontesbury
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I have found a birth reg William James Oliver Dec qtr 1878 Tenbury 6c 289
and a marriage reg Dec qtr 1902 Tenbury William james Oliver Mary Elizabeth Powles 6c 443
but there are so many William Olivers/James Olivers on census it is difficult to know which is which
Having another look for Aaron
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he must of been up to no good they moved around alot but only in a 30mile radius it seems so i would go for the culmington Jessie. He doesnt look like a labourer from his photo but he was never talked about.
Cert says william James Oliver and tenbury close by. shouldnt laugh but googled the area and this area was full of highway men 
now i am getting confused
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I wonder if he used an alias? ?
I think I'll look for his siblings and see if he's anywhere around
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did may people use an alias then?been up since 5 today so sorry if sounding confused but he really is annoying me lol
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