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northern_rose
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I'm hunting for the death cert of my husbands great great Aunt Julia but have failed to find any possibilities on Scotlands people.
I'm wondering if anyone else can spot her?
She was born Julia Coleman Haig in August 1880. She married James Stewart in 1907 and lived at Abbey Mount in Edinburgh. Julia and James ran the Stewart Dance academy (which became the Astoria - thanks to fellow RC for that info!)
The family story goes that she was killed in a car accident in ?1930's.
I have hunted in her married and maiden names for deaths from 1907 to 1955 but can't see anything which ties into her and no cedits left.
If anyone can spot her I'll get more credits for the certificate unless a very kind person is visiting the GRO and would be willing to look up and transcribe the death certificate?
Thanks for all help
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Wilson in the Lancaster area Clegg in Todmorden Adamson in Edinburgh Miller in Edinburgh Nunn in Norfolk and Co Durham Smith in Glasgow Haig in Peebles/Edinburgh Also Nelson, Gardener, Garnett, Blair, Coleman, Aaronson and many more as the branches expand! Census info is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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daval57
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Think I've found her mother?
Julia Colman Haig m.s. Aaronson died 1909 age 55 in Canongate area GROS 685/03 0363.
If you send me a PM with your email address, I'll send a copy of the record to you.
Dave
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/access code: aldav5257Census information is Crown Copyright |
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northern_rose
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Hi will PM you but also wanted to post on the thread to say thanks but I already have this death.
I have everything for Julia except her childrens births (I am not requesting them) and her death.
I can take the line back to her grandfather but it's her death that's really bugging me!
We "know" from family stories that she died in the 1930's in a car accident.
The story goes that her husband may not have been too faithful and the "other woman" was in the car at the time of the accident but that she survived.
I just don't see where her death is registered though! (I have even tried the English free BMD site!)
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sancti
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Cant see anything on SP. Maybe the story of her death was wrong and she lived beyond 1957.
Maybe she divorced him and remarried
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northern_rose
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Cant see anything on SP. Maybe the story of her death was wrong and she lived beyond 1957.
Maybe she divorced him and remarried
erm............. yes a possibility I thought of but it doesn't fit with the family story. Julia is from my husband's side of the family not James so it would seem strange that the family never saw her again!
In fact as her mother died young Julia virtually brought up her youngest sister who was devastated by her death and never spoke to James again.
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Have you tried finding the death of James to see if it says 'widower' that would narrow down the dates
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Hi N Rose,
Did James Stewart have any middle names, and when was he born approx.
Tom
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Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Paterson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Paterson.
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Akwaaba
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The Scotman archives has listed divorce proceedings between Julia Stewart v Stewart 12 February 1935 under Lord Pitman
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Hi Akwaba,
I wonder if she died before decree absolute, because I checked on National Archives of Scotland and no record there. Thanks for the info.
Tom
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Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Paterson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Paterson.
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northern_rose
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The Scotman archives has listed divorce proceedings between Julia Stewart v Stewart 12 February 1935 under Lord Pitman
thanks for this!
Does the report give any more info that would confirm it as my Julia Stewart?
If she died before decree absolute as Tom suggests there should be a death cert in her married name - which we don't seem able to find.
I am wondering if she remarried and therefore has her death registered in another surname? Off I go to try and find out!!!
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Wilson in the Lancaster area Clegg in Todmorden Adamson in Edinburgh Miller in Edinburgh Nunn in Norfolk and Co Durham Smith in Glasgow Haig in Peebles/Edinburgh Also Nelson, Gardener, Garnett, Blair, Coleman, Aaronson and many more as the branches expand! Census info is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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northern_rose
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Hi N Rose,
Did James Stewart have any middle names, and when was he born approx.
Tom
Sorry missed this question earlier!
I don't have James exact birth but c1876. I have exact details for all his siblings thanks to the IGI but nothing for him.
edited to add - no middle name as far as I know. His parents were married in Ireland and I wonder if he was born there before the family came over to Edinburgh.
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northern_rose
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I am wondering if she remarried and therefore has her death registered in another surname? Off I go to try and find out!!!
Just realised SP doesn't have marriages recent enough to be able to look it up!
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Hi N Rose,
Just looked again at you post re Stewarts Ballroom, and someone gave you info re Councillor John F Stewart, is this the person who married Julia, or is it his brother, etc. What we need you to do is to give us the info that you have got so we can try and dig up some more info. If you are thinking maybe Julia remarried and then died under a different name, it would appear we do not have too much concrete info.
The fact that I searched records and found no divorce is worrying, it could mean they never divorced or it could mean the record is missing. Maybe, Akwaba, who found details on the Scotsman Archives could further check for death of Julia. With her status, I think there may have been some form of obituary.
Tom
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Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Paterson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Paterson.
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northern_rose
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I really appreciate everyone's help on this - it's the first time I have had difficulties with Scottish ancestors and you have all been so kind!
Anyway here is everything I know for certain - hope it all makes sense.
Stewarts -
John Stewart born c 1835 Ireland, worked as a wine merchant. Married....
Caroline Eleanor Newsam (born c 1837 Ireland) on 26 March 1861 at Maghera, Co Down, Ireland
John and Caroline had the following children (according to IGI) -
William 11 Oct 1864 in Edinburgh
Caroline Eleanor 26 Dec 1866 in Edinburgh
Helen 11 Oct 1868 in Edinburgh
Anna Maria 7 Feb 1871 in Edinburgh
John Bowles Rankine 1 Oct 1873 on board RMS Racoon in the quay at Greenock after returning from Belfast (guess he might have been a little early!) (Family still lived in Edinburgh at this time.)
JAMES c1876 (not on IGI)
JAMES STEWART marries JULIA COLEMAN HAIG on 11th Jan 1907 at ST Andrew's Church, South Back Cannongate. On their wedding cert James is a "dance teacher"
I know from oral family history the Stewarts had a dance school and even have a picture of Julia outside it.
John F Stewart (known as Francis in the family) was their son. I don't have exact birth details but going from the newspaper report of his death he was 59 in 1965 therefore his birth was approx 1906. John F Stewart was a councillor, owner of the Stewart Ballroom and died on a plane crash at Heathrow. (This was already known by the family but confirmed with newspaper reports over the past two days). Julia and James had a second son Eric.
Haig's -
As for Julia's parents -
Adam Alexander Haig born 16 March 1841 in Edinburgh. He was a Woollen Factory Manager and lived his adult married life in Edinburgh/Inerleithen, Peebles.
Adam married Julia Coleman Aaronson (born c 1853 ?Glasgow or Newcastle) on 7 Sept 1871 at Manchester cathedral. Adam died in 1895 and Julia in 1909.
Adam and Julia (snr) had 7 children -
Jessie Catanach Haig born 12 Antigua Street, Edinburgh on 15 Dec 1872. (she married a Thomas Hunter)
Amelia Helen Haig born 18 Dec 1874 at 21 Salisbury Street, Edinburgh and died March 1876 at 4 Great King Street, Edinburgh
David Alexander Haig born 23 Mar 1877 in Inerleithen. Emigrated and died 1962 in Rhode Island USA.
Margaret Elizabeth born 25 May 1879 in Inerleithen. ?marriage and death
JULIA COLEMAN HAIG born 31 Aug 1880 in Inerleithen. marriage as above to James Stewart. ???DEATH???
Lewis John born 1883. Emigrated to South Africa and died 1959 there.
Mabel Rebecca Haig born 08 Jun 1891in Inerleithen (my husband's great grandmother) Died 1976
I hope I haven't now given you too much detail!
I just can't work out what happened to Julia as the family story is of her dying in a car crash.
Thanks again
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MonicaLesl
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Hi All
Just additional background. There is a birth showing on SP for a Francis John Stewart in 1907 in Canongate, Midlothian. Birth year would fit better with marriage that year for the parents.
Regards.
Monica
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