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Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« on: Wednesday 09 January 08 14:43 GMT (UK) »

Joseph Vaughan, my grandfather.  Born 1886 or 1885.  parents Joseph Vaughan and Sarah Watters.  Not sure where he was born but came from Gateshead to Kippford around 1920 where he married my grandmother.  He died in 1947 and is buried in Colvend Churchyard

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I am trying to research my grandfather - Joseph Vaughan, born 1886 (or 85).  He died in 1947 at Kippford in Southern Scotland.

He worked as a boiler maker in a shipyard in Gateshead before moving to Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland where he met and married my grandmother.

His father was also called Joseph Vaughan and his mother was Sarah Watters
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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 14:57 GMT (UK) »

Hello Pinkjeans

Welcome to Rootschat  Smiley

If you know the date of his marriage and his death*, you can get images of the certificates online from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

It's pay to view but is very reasonable compared to the England & Wales certs. For example, an index search and an image would cost 6 units or £1.20.

It might be worth checking on the UK censuses - 1891-1901 to see if you can locate him.

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* I have checked the index for his death cert and it is there - 1947, aged 62, Colvend.
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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 15:08 GMT (UK) »

Hi again

I've had a quick look through the 1891 census (Eng) and marriages of his parents but so far can't find a likely family. Also checked the free BMD index for his birth but there are a considerable number:

 http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

I hope someone else might be able to come and help as I have to go now.

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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 15:27 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for the help so far.  I am amazed at how quick I had a reply!  Smiley
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I am trying to research my grandfather - Joseph Vaughan, born 1886 (or 85).  He died in 1947 at Kippford in Southern Scotland.

He worked as a boiler maker in a shipyard in Gateshead before moving to Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland where he met and married my grandmother.

His father was also called Joseph Vaughan and his mother was Sarah Watters
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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 15:37 GMT (UK) »

hi pinkjeans

welcome to rootschat  Smiley

there is a joseph vaughan marriage on scotlandspeople
colvend kirkcudbright  in 1925 to an edith ?

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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 16:04 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Ev, that is my grandmother.  I will check out the website. Smiley
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I am trying to research my grandfather - Joseph Vaughan, born 1886 (or 85).  He died in 1947 at Kippford in Southern Scotland.

He worked as a boiler maker in a shipyard in Gateshead before moving to Kirkcudbrightshire, Scotland where he met and married my grandmother.

His father was also called Joseph Vaughan and his mother was Sarah Watters
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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 16:26 GMT (UK) »

I wonder if this is Joseph's family in 1891 in Tixall, Staffordshire - maybe you will recognize the middle name initials:

Joseph Vaughan    32, agr. lab., b. Milford, Staffordshire
Sarah A Vaughan 27, b. Newport, Shropshire
Mary A Vaughan    6, b. Gayton, Staffordshire
Joseph T Vaughan 3, b. Littleworth, Staffordshire

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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 16:28 GMT (UK) »

A possible birth entry for this Joseph:

Births Mar 1888   
VAUGHAN    Joseph Thomas         Stafford    6b   19

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 16:30 GMT (UK) »

hi monica

i saw that to
the're on 1901 census as well joseph's middle name is thomas

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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 16:33 GMT (UK) »

That's great Ev.

And likely entry for parents' marriage:

Marriages Jun 1884 

Vaughan    Joseph         Stafford    6b   45   
Wright    Sarah Anne     Stafford    6b   45   

You will be able to confirm mother's maiden name from Joseph's 1925 marriage cert.

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 16:57 GMT (UK) »

Hi

I'm back now.

I saw those entries before I had to rush off, Monica, but felt that they weren't close enough to the info that  pj gave - birth 1885/6 and mother Sarah Watters. it could be that it was a second marriage.

I think it might be best first of all to check the info from the marriage and death certs for parents's names and father's occupation.

I'll go see what I can dig out.

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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 17:01 GMT (UK) »

The death certificate (15 July 1947) shows Joseph to be a chauffeur, living Kippford. Aged 62.  His father, Joseph, was a fitter and turner (dec) and his mother was Sarah, m.s. Watters, as pj said.

So we're looking for a fitter and turner. I don't think the Staffs one is likely  Undecided

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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 17:14 GMT (UK) »

Interestingly, the marriage cert gives the father as George Vaughan, rivetter. Neither parents down as deceased on 30 April 1925. Joseph was 40. Which suggests a birth date of 1885 or even 1884  Undecided

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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 17:24 GMT (UK) »

Think I might have found the family in 1901

RG13/4767 Folio  81  Page 7

46 Blandford St, Westgate, Newcastle upon Tyne

George Vaughan, 51, Rivetter, boiler, b. Ireland
Mary, 48, b. Ireland
William 23, labourer - shipyard, b. Scotland
Annie, 18, servant, b. Newcastle upon Tyne
Joseph, 16, heater - iron trade, b. Hull
George, 13, b. Newcastle upon Tyne
Sarah, 11, b. Newcastle upon Tyne
David, 3, b. Newcastle upon Tyne


Mother wrong - but could Sarah have died  Undecided  It's the nearest that I can find and it's in the right area.


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Re: Help! Info needed on Joseph Vaughan b. 1886
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 17:40 GMT (UK) »

William, aged 23 in 1901's mother was a Sarah Ann m.s. looks like Fonler or Ferler  Undecided on his birth cert:

Anderston, 6 Dec 1877, William James Father George Vaughan, boilermaker, journeyman

Not sure about it but it looks interesting. This snippet shows the parents names and the date and place of their marriage.

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