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lcsnor
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I am interested in a marriage that I have seen on the IGI and wonder if anyone may have access to the original register.
It is 14 Dec 1847, George Lee & Emma Davis
ANY further information would be most appreciated.
Thanks so much
Louise
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Ecneps
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Hi Louise,
the GRO ref for the marriage is Dec Qu 1847 Gloucester 11/463 if you wished to order the certificate
Barbara
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Gillg
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Hi Louise
I'll be in Gloucester RO towards the end of next week, and will take a look at the PR for you for further details.
St Nicholas Church is one of the oldest churches in the city and is situated close to the former West Gate and the Cathedral. Genuki has a nice photo of it.
Gillg
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lcsnor
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Thanks for your replies.
I'm hoping not to have to buy the certificate - George is not my direct ancestor (in fact may not be mine at all) but I'm hoping will provide some clues to the life of the man who may be George's father, Isaac Lee, who was my direct ancestor!!
Would appreciate any clues at all from the PR - any of the details usually supplied at a marriage would be a wonderful help.
Thanks
Louise
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Gillg
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Louise
Don't hope for too much from the PR entry. It will only give bachelor/spinster/widow(er), of this parish or from somewhere else and witnesses, who sometimes give a clue if they are relatives, but often aren't. If only they had included father's name in those days!
You wouldn't get any more than that if you ordered the certificate, but every little helps, as they say. 
Regards,
Gillg
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lcsnor
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With this little puzzle I have going on ..... I'll take whatever I can get!
Thanks again, so much,
Louise
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Gillg
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Louise
You'll get a lot more than I said previously!  Forgot that the marriage registers changed in 1837, providing much more information.
St Nicholas Church 14 Dec 1847
George Lee bachelor Confectioner full age father Isaac Lee Labourer
Emma Davis spinster full age father William Davis Shoemaker
Married by Banns
Both resident in the parish of St Nicholas
Both made their Marks X
Witnesses Henry Hinton & Hester Sheen (both signed)
If Isaac Lee is your ancestor, then I guess George is, too.
Gillg
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lcsnor
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Well well. That is most interesting.
I have an ancestor called Isaac Lee and I strongly suspect he is this George's father. I can't as yet quite prove it though. I'd like to be able to confirm it to fill in the blank in Isaac's whereabouts for 20 years. I would also like to prove or disprove that Isaac was a bigamist.
George Lee is a very interesting man. By 1851 he has a wife called Sarah Cox and since she and her family were confectioners I had assumed that was the origin of his profession.... but now it seems not. I don't know what happened to Emma. By the end of his life George seems to have at least 20 children with at least 4 women. He lives throughout England & I even found him in Scotland in 1881. He also seems to delight in unusual names for his children, Prince Napoleon, Lincoln Garibaldi etc.
Thanks so much for your help on the details of the marriage. I may be able to track down Emma now I know her family, and who knows those witnesses may be a clue.
Really appreciate you taking the time,
Louise
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Gillg
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Sounds as if you've got some interesting characters among your ancestors, Louise! I looked for a baptism of Emma on the IGI and found 2 possibilities:
Emma dau of William & Mary 12 Mar 1822 St Philip's & St Jacob's Bristol
" " " 28 July 1824 Dursley
Round about the right age, though Dursley is nearer to Gloucester. Can you find Emma's family in the 1841 census, and are George & Isaac in Glos then? Sorry, I don't have Ancestry.
I love those names. It certainly records history and contemporary heroes for us. I did once find a Horatio Nelson (forenames) father and son in another family.
Glad I could help. If you wish, I could look for Emma's baptism in the Gloucester PRs for you, also Dursley, in view of that IGI entry. William's profession should be recorded there. I'll be back there in a couple of weeks' time.
Best wishes,
Gillg
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lcsnor
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Thanks for the offer of further help. For now I think I'm going to try and back off with this lot...... this family is exhausting me!!! I can't find Emma in the 1841 in Gloucester - of course she could be from anywhere, Dursley as you say is more likely. I would have liked to have found her in Worcester as that would have given me some kind of confirmation on my Isaac being this George's father. I can't see her obviously there though. One of the funny things is that George's second wife's mother was also Davies. In addition Isaac's daughter Emma (who was my ancestor) married a man who's mother was Davies. Now I know Davies is a common name but ...... well anyway as I say this family is exhausting me and sometimes I'm having trouble following the plot!!
Just to add to the interesting family names - yesterday I identified George having a daughter called Amazulu!
Can't thank you enough for your help,
Louise
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Gillg
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That George of yours sounds an interesting character!  If you need anything else looked up at the RO in the future just let me know.
Gillg
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