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This has been a really hard one!! My gtgtgt grandfather James Snook/s came to New Zealand with Queen Victorias 65th regiment on the non-convict ship "euphrates" which departed from Portsmouth on 26-12-1854(Boxing day,lol!!!), arrived in Auckalnd NZ 26-04-1855. He has ended up in Patea, Taranaki New Zealand after being discharged with gratuity at Otahuhu in auckland, his time with the 65th regiment was from 21-03-1854 to 5-10-1855.
my problem is finding the correct line for him back in England, all I have was that he was born in Weymouth Dorset England in 1842? have found no parents and everytime I think i have the right line, it comes back wrong!!! He died in Patea NZ in 1898 and his religion was eppesconial?,and is buried in that part of Patea cemetery.
He was a private and in the 1st and 2nd muster in auckland, the 3rd muster in the Bay of Islands New Zealand.
With so many James Snook/s around the area, how do i find the correct line, also both names Snook and Snooks have been used for him and others in the NZ line.
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What information is given about his parentage on his New Zealand marriage and death certificates? What was his age at his death and marriage - was it consistent?
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Hi there, nothing on his intention to marry notice as he had been in Wanganui Nz for 8yrs, when he married in 1869, and the marriage cert has nothing either, the certs were like that in that time in Nz, the only detail was that he was a labourer!
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And no further information on his death certificate?
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and sorry on his death cert in 1898 that he was born in Dorset and Weymouth is also given on my gtgt nans birth cert. in the parents space, on his death cert it's written "not known"
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sorry again, am new to this site, his age at marriage in 1869 was 36yrs old, death he was 66yrs old in 1898.
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Every descendant I have found in Nz so far have no more than what I have been able to find, and I am only getting started on this site with inquiries!!
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his birth 1832!
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There is a James Snook aged 21 on the 1851 census born Buckland Ripers which is close to Weymouth. He was an ag lab. visiting the Brownsey family. On the 1841 census he was in Buckland Ripers with George Snook aged between 15 and 19 in the household of the Tewksburys next door to Elizabeth Snook aged 65 to 69, all born Dorset. I can't see James Snook on censuses after 1851.
You say you have looked at different candidates. Have you researched this James Snook and ruled him out?
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SNOOK, James
Christening Date:1 Feb 1829 Buckland Ripers, Dorset
Father:Thomas SNOOK
Mother:Eliza
6th December 1829
St Nicholas Buckland Ripers
Thomas Snook aged 33
You really need to have checked James' regimental muster records (which will be held at The National Archives) to see what information is given on him when he enlists and leaves the regiment and whether at either times his birthplace was stated.
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hi there, thankyou for that, from memory I had checked on that one and those boys were a different line, will try it again, national archives had sent me what they had but that is NZ, have tried looking on the uk archives, will keep plodding along with it!!!
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In the 1881 census a Jame snook, ag, lab born Buckland ripers dorset 1847, in 1881 aged 34. The same one went on to ,marry an Agnes Knight.
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Not sure what the relevancy of James Snook born circa 1847 Buckland Ripers is to James Snook born between 1829/32 in Buckland Ripers?
James Snook born Buckland Ripers circa 1847 was the son of Samuel and Catherine Snook. He is clearly on all censuses from 1851 onwards to at least 1881. In 1851 he and his siblings were living in Owermoigne Dorset. Judging by the sibling birthplaces from the 1851 census this Snook family passed quickly through Buckland Ripers with only James being born in the village.
You have to visit or engage a researcher if you wish to access the regiment's muster rolls at The National Archives in London. TNA has over 50 miles of shelved records dating back a thousand years. Only a mininscule amount is indexed electronically - around 10 million records - which for TNA is a bit like a drop in the ocean.
How have you managed to eliminate the James Snook born Buckland Ripers circa 1829/32 who appears on the 1841 and 1851 censuses then disappears from English censuses. What happened to him?
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I will check my notes etc for that james Snook, thankyou for the info too!
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Buckland Ripers is a very small rural village
http://people.bath.ac.uk/lismd/dorset/churches/buckland-ripers.html
http://www.dorset-opc.com/BucklandRipersFiles/BucklandRipers.htm
People in the past when they moved away from an area they lived sometimes gave the nearest town as their birthplaces. Nobody but those living close by to Buckland Ripers will have heard of it, but Weymouth is much more well known. Use Google maps to see how close the two are.
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4HPEA_en-GBGB236GB236&tab=wl
The National Archives research guides give you very useful information about the records they hold.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/researchguidesindex.asp
Scroll down to
'British Army: Muster Rolls and Pay Lists, c1730-1898'
and
'British Army: Useful Sources for Tracing Soldiers'
I doubt James Snook served long enough in the army to receive a pension so the more detailed records found in
'British Army: Soldiers' Discharge Papers, 1760-1913'
will not be any use to you. If a soldier during this period left the army before serving sufficient time to receive a pension - as most men did then his enlistment papers were not kept because there was no reason as far as the army was concerned to keep them.
The burial of a possible sister for James
1827 Aug-17; Caroline SNOOK; Buckland Ripers aged 5
but no baptism for her or the George Snook found on the 1841 census in the same household as James, in Buckland Ripers so they are likely to have been born somewhere else. No marriage for Thomas Snook and Eliza in Buckland Ripers.
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