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Eveline Clarke
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I am hoping someone can help me with this, but I think it is really a longshot.
I am trying to find the birth of Robert Carlos Hardy, who according to the 1930 American Census was born in Aberdeen about 1887.
Family lore is that his parents were diplomats in the West Indies and then in America.
We do NOT know anything more about Robert except that his children were born in New Jersey and that he died in America in 1933.
Eveline
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irret
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Hi Eveline,
I am not a World Ancestry member so can't view but perhaps someone will for you- I found reference for
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Robert Carlos Hardy This should confirm his birth place for you.
Name: Robert Carlos Hardy Index to declaration of intent for Naturalization New York County 1907-1924 
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Eveline Clarke
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Thank you for that. I am not a member, but I think a distant cousin is and I have written to her asking if she would look this up for me.
I do appreciate you looking for me.
Eveline
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Eveline Clarke
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Thank you for your reply. It doesn't sound like my Robert Hardy as Shetland is a long long way from Aberdeen. However, I will keep this in mind just in case.
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Eveline
Do you know the name of Robert's wife in America? There is this marriage entry in Manhattan:
Hardy Robert C
Date of Marriage: Mar 22 1928 Manhattan
Certificate No. 7293
Bride's name: Perdew Alice G
When searching for births for Robert in Scotland, it is probably worthwhile searching the surname as Hardie as well, a more common variant. There is one entry coming up for births in Aberdeen area for a Robert HARDIE (without initial C for a middle name) between 1883-89:
1888 HARDIE ROBERT M KEMNAY /ABERDEEN 207/00 0029
From the 1891 Census, this Robert's parents look to have been a William (farm servant) and Janet ~ doesn't bode well for a diplomat's family....
I would probably look to America for confirmation of his parents' names (Robert's marriage/death certs) and then work back from there.
Have you looked for Robert and family in any of the earlier American censuses? You might want to put up a new post on the emigrants to the US board here on RootsChat where people with better access to these resources may be able to help:
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,164.0.html
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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irret
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I wonder if this is R H Hardy in 1881
Source RG11 Folio 0841 165 27
Born 1856 Barbados, West Indies - Lieutant In XI Hussars married no sign of wife and possibly RC Hardy Lancaster Lodge Census Place London, Middlesex, England
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Irret  I was just looking at this one (Baby Mary skills coming to mind!)
Eveline, your Robert looks to have been born in Nova Scotia according to the ship's manifest SS Marval 1916. Have at the Ellis Island site for full details www.ellisisland.org. It's a two page manifest (pgs. 0679/80 - they are the wrong way round, 680 should be first then 679). There's quite a lot of info on it.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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irret
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Thought this one was made for you Scotland - Diplomat- and a New Jersey connection, yes happy days 
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Eveline Clarke
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Thank you to everyone who replied to me. I never expected this much information it is brilliant.
I have checked out the Ellis Island site and agree that it looks as though he was born 1880.
The 1887 was from the 1930 american census which said he was aged 42. We know that is right as he is with Mildred and five of the children at that time.
I am not sure about the marriage in 1928. Mildred had a son in 1927 a daughter in 1929, a son in 1930 and another daughter in 1932.
Robert died according to family lore in 1933 in New Jersey and then Mildred and the children came home.
The Barbados link to the West Indies is interesting.
As is the 1881 census. I cannot open Ancestry.com but I can look and found that census there. I have asked my cousin to open it for us.
I also notice that Robert H born 1856 Barbados in the 1871 census, this time living in Rutland, so I have asked Mary to open that one as well.
Once again that you for all help and yes irret this one is made for me. I am thoroughly enjoying trying to sort out this little knot.
Eveline
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MonicaLesl
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Eveline
If wife's name was Mildred, then the ref for a 1928 marriage to an Alice is not relevant.
I don't know if you have yet noticed, but on the 1916 ship's manifest, Robert shows as already married (first marriage or had he married Mildred by now?)
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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MonicaLesl
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Extracted birth entry for Robert snr ?:
ROBERT HENRY HARDY Christening: 20 DEC 1855 Saint Michael, Barbados, Caribbean
Parents: ROBERT HARDY and MARY ELIZABETH BOND
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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Eveline Clarke
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Thanks to you all for responding again.
Yes Irret, I managed to find it afterwards, by putting born Barbados in the search engine. It just said he was with a cook and a servant, I couldn't find Robert Carlos - probably looking in the wrong place. Will have another look in a minutes.
I also looked on Ancestry.com. I cannot open the files, but I can look to see if they are there and found Robert Henry on the 1871 in Rutland. Gosh these Hardys get everywhere. I have asked my cousin to open that one.
Thank you Monica for finding Robert Henry's birth. I know have a father for Robert Carlos and one set of Grandparents.
Family lore was that Robert was previously married before Mildred, so obviously that was before 1916. No I hadn't noticed it, thank you for bringing it to my attention. So it looks as though he might have married either in the West Indies or Nova Scotia.
Mary lives in the States and can usually find her way around their archive system, but so far has been unable to find a death.
Thanks once again.
Eveline
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