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Topic: PAY Family disappeared - Help! (Read 86 times)
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JDGen
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Hi All,
I have in my family line Ellen BECKETT who married John PAY at Ellesmere, Shropshire in 1864. They had a son, Edwin Richard PAY born in 1872 in Ellesmere.
1881 - RG11 2664/12 Page 16, Watergate St, Ellesmere
Ellen died in 1886 (Freebmd Mar 1886 Ellesmere 6a 59)
1891 John PAY - RG12 2121/22 Page 3, Beaconsfield House, Victoria St, Ellesmere
1891 Edwin PAY - RG12 2888/15 Page 24, Frodsham St, Tranmere
John and Edwin PAY disappear after the 1891 census - I can't see any death references for them. Can anyone spot them in 1901 or come up with any other ideas to save my sanity? 
Thanks
Jean
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor) HRT: Gurney HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St) LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale) NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering) YKS: Scott(Clapham) |
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wozzle
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1901 RG13/2807/142/35.
edwin pay mistranscribed as edwin lancaster.
john lancaster age 50. b. newport,wales. occ. corn merchant. head.
tabitha age 51. b. ditto. wife.
edwin pay age 30. b. ellesmere. occ. insurance clerk.boarder.
elizabeth jones age 17. b. bath. occ. gen.serv. dom.
living at 8,caroline road,kings norton,moseley,worcestershire.
reg.dist. kings norton.
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cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn
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wozzle
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did john re-marry at an advanced age
in 1891 his birthplace is given as overton kent
in the 1901 there is a john pay birthplace given as overton,wales.
1901. RG13/2549/6/3.
john pay age 66. b. overton,flintshire. occ. accountant. head.
margaret.j. pay age 44. b. newtown,montgomeryshire. wife.
crichton.h.pay age 5. b. ellesmere,salop. son.
sarah.a.m.a. hughes age 19. b. middx,london. step-daughter.
ann harbour age 76. b. reading,berkshire. visitor.(widowed)
mary.a.woodfin age 17. b. ellesmere,salop. occ. dom.serv.
living at the mount,st.johns hill,ellesmere,salop.
reg.dist. ellesmere.
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cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
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JDGen
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Ooh thanks wozzle - now why didn't I see that!
Not surprised I didn't find Edwin!
For John the birthplace is Overton, Flint in 1891 - just over the border in Wales.
Thank you so much for this, they were driving me mad!!
Jean
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor) HRT: Gurney HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St) LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale) NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering) YKS: Scott(Clapham) |
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JDGen
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Hi Wozzle,
Yes, I'm onto it now - there were family links with Liverpool and the stepdaughter in 1901 is Hughes - also Crichton's middle name was Hughes (registered 1898). I'm just wondering if Ann Barber is connected as Ellen's cousins were Barbers but I'm probably getting carried away now.
I'm writing up the history for the Beckett line, and I keep finding all these gaps.....! 
Jean
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor) HRT: Gurney HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St) LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale) NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering) YKS: Scott(Clapham) |
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JDGen
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Thanks again wozzle.
Jean
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukCHS: Barber(Tabley) Barlow(Antrobus) Blackshaw(Lymm, Mobberley) Blease/Done/Moore(G Bud) Owen(Netherton, Tabley) Spragg/Witter(Goostrey) Youd(Frodsham) Pennell Bankes Birchall Beckett DBY: Higginbottom(Mellor) HRT: Gurney HRT/BED/ESS: Verney (Markyate St) LAN: Davenport(Bolton) Schofield/Gurney(Oldham) Lord(Heap) Quinn(Manchester) Sutcliffe(Rossendale) NTH: Tubb/Johnson(Hellidon)Brown(Kettering) YKS: Scott(Clapham) |
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