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Dale
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Kia Ora
Just recording that I am interested in making contact with any member of the OVERSTALL family who may be able to help me with information about the life & family of Marguerite Fairy Webb born 19 July 1905 West Bromwich and who died in the Registration District of Newton Abbot April 1987.
Marguerite seems to have married Mr Overstall at some time and moved to Devon.
At this stage I have no further information as I only learned of this connection overnight!
Grateful for any information!
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Marlene
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HUNTS: Fairy, Ding, Scotney, Swinton, Burgess, Brace
BEDS: Farey, Fairy, Young, Rootham, Gell, Wildman, Cooper. Deighton, Flavel.
NORTHANTS: Hills, Mobbs, Twelftrees,
DERBY: Fairey,
LONDON: Fairey, Fairy, Burgess, Williams, Tanser, Picknell, Vinall, Plampin, Mullins, Day, Folwell, Bamfield, Brown
WATFORD HERTS; Burgess, Williams
WARKS: Fairy, Ward, Stephens, Reeves, Hodgkiss, Byrne, Hunt, Edgeworth, Harper, Dudley,
WORCS: Callow, Lowe
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Hi Marlene
I see on free BMD these birth registrations:
Clarence Fairy Webb .. June q 1898, west Bromwich
John Fairy Webb ... mar q 1902
Marguerite Fairy Webb ...Sept q 1905 , vol 6b p 830
will look for Clarence Fairy webb in 1901 , hopefully we will find his parents ...
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Hi again
this may be them in 1901
Handsworth Staffs
Roland Rd
Harry Elisha F Webb head mar 38 Scale maker , weigh , b warwick
Jennie wife 33 b warwick
Harry E F son 10
Dais Fairy dau 8 ......fairy transcribed as Fany
Philip Fairy son 8
Clarence Fairy son 2 b Staffordshire, Handsworth
Ida fairy dau 4 months "
will look for more
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Birth registrations for Marguerite Fairy Webb's siblings:
Harry Elisha F Webb - mar q 1891 Aston warwickshire
Daisy Fairy Webb - sept q 1892 Aston
Philip Fairy Webb - Dec q 1894 Aston
Ida Violet f webb - dec q 1900 aston
will find them in previous censuses to see if there are more children and hopefully find the marriage of harry Elisha F Webb to a Jennie.
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1891
Aston Warwickshire
191 Wilton st
Henry Webb head mar 28 weighing machine maker b Birmingham
Jane Webb wife mar 23 b Aston
Harry E Webb son 2m b Aston
This may be a possible marriage :
Harry Webb
same page : Jane Homer
1886, dec q
West Bromwich
deb
PS I think obtaining Marguerite's birth cert would be a good idea , just so as we can confirm her parent's names.
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hi again
I have been trying to figure out were the 'Fairy' part of the name comes from ...No luck as yet ...
Henry/Harry Webb b 1863, father of Marguerite ( we hope  )....this is his family;
1871:
birmingham
129 Soho(??) Rd
John Webb head mar 40 weigh machine maker b B'ham (IGI b 15 jan 1831, chr; 15 feb 1831 s/o Edward webb & Maria)
Sarah wife mar 35 b B'ham
HARRY son 8 b Birmingham...he seems to have followed his dad's occupation!
1861:
John Webb head mar 30 weighing machine maker
Sarah Wife 25
Elizabeth Tuffley w. mother wid 65 , b Middlesex, London
marriage:
John Webb = Sarah Tuffley
june q 1856
so no connection to the Fairy name there 
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Cas (stallc)
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One to consider? maybe poss. red herring.....could have been illegit...or got fed up with name and put Henry/Harry Webb around it? As suggested Birth cert needed to confirm
Births Mar 1863 FAIRY Elisha Birmingham 6d 82
Marriages Dec 1889
Fairy Elisha Aston 6d 568
FLETCHER Jane Aston 6d 568
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hi Marlene ...
This is interesting ... and obviously needs to be verified that we have correct parents for Marguerite......
we have Marguerite Fairy Webb (1905) d/o Henry/Harry Elisha F Webb (b 1863, B'ham) s/o John Webb (1831 ) B'ham s/o Edward and Maria Webb.
It seems according to IGI that Edward and Maria had quite a few children born in B'ham.
but then I found this in 1841
Newton Abbot, Devon...Added this is where Marguerite ends up after marrying Mr . Overstall !!
Strand, Royal Hotel
Edward Webb 31 Hotel Keeper
Maria Webb 31 Y
Robert Webb 1 Y
I wonder if these are John's parents....ummm maybe I have the wrong people
deb
Hi Cas ... have just seen your post ...will read
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errr yes I had the wrong edward and maria in 1841 , I think
1851
B'ham, upper Brierley st, court 17
Edward webb head mar 53 thimble maker
Maria wife 53
Elizabeth dau 22 unm
John W son unm 20
Hannah E dau unm 17
Elizabeth Mason mother wid 78
all born B'ham
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I have seen a marriage on IGI of Edward Webb = Maria MASOn
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Hi Cas
I had also seen that ... I wonder if that's him ... I still cannot find a Webb/Fairy connection ...I have even gome back to Edward's birth and Parents (IGI Samuel and Hannah ) ...no connection there either ....
maybe Marlene can shed some light ....
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Hiya deb  comp froze had to log out/in again.... 
Can't find him on 1871 -1881
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1841 ,,,just too tie up loose ends
B'ham,
Court 17
edward WEBB 43 silversmith J, Y
Maria 43
James 20 jeweller app
Maria 15
edward 15
Frederick 14
Elizabeth 12
Hannah 8
Samuel 3m
all born in county
deb
Hi Cas ...this is driving me crazy .... Do you think these are our people ? It looks like it as we have followed them back from 1901 ...
So you can't see Elisha Fairy b 1863 in 1871 or 1881?
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Nope, but still trying....
Think the birth cert is only answer....could match up with what you found, but why would a bloke call himself Fairy if not born with it???
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Hi Cas
i have searched 1871 ... he's not there , also there are no deaths ...except for an Elisha Fairy in 1854 .
I agree with you re the Fairy name ...not such a macho one for a guy
In 1901...that's the only time he has his full name ...Harry Elisha F Webb . His son is named after him ...
Birth registrations for Marguerite Fairy Webb's siblings: Harry Elisha F Webb - mar q 1891 Aston warwickshireDaisy Fairy Webb - sept q 1892 Aston Philip Fairy Webb - Dec q 1894 Aston Ida Violet f webb - dec q 1900 aston deb
added The Fairy name must come somewhere from the Webb side ... as marguerites dad Harry has the "F" in his name ...
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arrrrggg comp is on go slow, guess birth cert needed to confirm
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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop Bray - Cornwall Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs Baggot, Flynn -Ireland |
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