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Can't find a marriage
« on: Sunday 13 January 08 08:56 GMT (UK) »

This photo is of John Bell (right) with his son, Robbie, and nephew, Jim Palmer.  John Bell was the son of James and Fanny on my avatar.  He was born in 1881 at Tundergarth and was living there, aged 19, in 1901.

He married someone called Jean.  This must have happened well before 1930, as I think the photo was taken late 20's or early 30's.  I just cannot find the marriage on Scotland's people.   Can anyone help?

I would also like to know where he lived, and was visited by his nephew from London in the photo.  Obviously a marriage cert would possibly help with that.


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Re: Can't find a marriage
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 19:39 GMT (UK) »

Hi julieann,
To what extent have you searched SP?  ,ie, have you tried searching for a wife called Jane or Janet? or simply all names beginning with 'J' ?
Was John still unmarried in 1901? - I assume so because of your comment about the date of the photo.
Where did you get his wifes name - marriage cert / death cert?

I'd like to help, as I'm sure a lot of folk on RC will.  However, I don't want to cover ground that you've been over already.

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 19:49 GMT (UK) »

hi dave

i've had a quick look at this before and from what i remember there's loads
of possibilities including 3 at tundergarth alone

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 19:54 GMT (UK) »

I did too ev.
I agree, far too many to search from the info we have.
Maybe julieann can help us narrow it down.

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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 21:53 GMT (UK) »

Hi
Thanks for looking!
I have an idea that the lady's surname could be Adamson.
I have searched John Bell marriages 1901 to 1931 Dms.  Looked at Janes, Janets and Jeans but none of the right date as the child in the photo appears to be 5 or 6 in the late 20's.
Also looked at marriages  in all of  Scotland between John Bell and Adamson from 1900 to 1931, there are only 2. Checked out the most likely and it was the wrong one.

The fact that John's wife was called Jean comes from the boy in the photo, Robbie, who wrote some notes on family history for my grandmother.  The Adamson name comes from another family member. I guess both could be wrong.  I know that Jean usually = Jane in Scotland, but I had another auntie Jean who was actually Elizabeth..so who knows.
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Re: Can't find a marriage
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 23:40 GMT (UK) »

Julieann

Have you looked for a death for John Bell. The certificate should give his wife's maiden name on it.

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 23:49 GMT (UK) »

Julieann,
Gadget makes a good point - that's kinda what I was getting to in my first reply.
Where did you get Jean's name?
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Re: Can't find a marriage
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 08:02 GMT (UK) »

The name Jean came from their son.

I looked at deaths in Dms for all John Bells 1950-57  Huh
Deaths for John Bells born in 1881 from 1855-1957
Also tried searching for deaths of John Bells with mothers maiden name Watson - none.
Bought several likely looking certs.
Out of credit on SP  Cry

Will be posting many unwanted BMD's for Bell family shortly  Roll Eyes
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Re: Can't find a marriage
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 January 08 20:23 GMT (UK) »

Thank you all for your suggestions.  I think I'll have to leave this one on the back burner until some new info turns up. Just too many John Bells
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