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Wesleyan Connextion
« on: Sunday 13 January 08 17:31 GMT (UK) »

Following a very useful lead from a forum member I was able to find my 3xgt grandmother's obituary on a website.

On it, it mentions she was a member of the Wesleyan Connextion for 32 years. I have been unable to find her burial in Wrexham's St Giles church and was wondering if there was a Wesleyan Church nearby where she may be buried.

She died in 1852 and lived in Wrexham.

Would be grateful for any information.
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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 January 08 18:45 GMT (UK) »

The Genuki Wales site lists three Weslyan churches under Wrexham:

Brynffynnon  (English language)

Hampden Road

Jerusalem, Egerton street.

I do not know whether or not they have graveyards i'm afraid, but i will keep looking.

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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 January 08 19:02 GMT (UK) »

Hi Titch

Thank you for your reply, will check out Genuki.

Cheers
Erika Smiley
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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 January 08 17:32 GMT (UK) »

There is a dissenters graveyard on Rhosddu Rd, Wrexham used till about 1888, and the Ruthin Road cemetery near the Belle View Park, this one was used before the Ruabon Road Cem was opened. in 1876.
The only records I`ve found are MI`s  for both , which could be worth checking. I have found some of mine.
Do you have a name for this lady.
Also I`m curious about the website you mentioned. Huh Huh
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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 January 08 18:08 GMT (UK) »


Hi wilcoxon

Thank you for your reply. I'd be grateful for some checks.
The ladies name was Frances Owen and she died July 1852 age 65
Her husband was William Owen and I have been unable to find his death so far.

Web address for the Wrexham Advertiser is below and very interesting



http://s205809145.websitehome.co.uk/births.htm

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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 January 08 15:04 GMT (UK) »

1851
William Owens 68  born Loppington, Shropshire.
Frances Owens 63   she was born Ellesmere.
Mary Ann Owens 23  born Ellesmere daughter.
Taymor Owens 22  a servant. female, born Chirk.
Stay manufacturers living in Yorke Street in 1851.

I expect you already have this. Smiley


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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 January 08 15:50 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Yes I already have the census, but I'm having a real problem finding William's death and I can't find him on the 1861 census.
The William Owen that died in the Wrexham area between the census was a baby!
I was hoping if I could find Frances's burial place, William may be there too.

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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 January 08 09:59 GMT (UK) »

Were they definately Owen, census has Owens , I found these on the
Wrexham Deaths Index site.
I will check MI`s this week for you.

OWENS William Wrexham Wrexham C.B. WM/009/69 1851 - not him
OWENS William Wrexham Wrexham C.B. WM/010/2 1851   - not him   
OWENS William Malpas Wrexham C.B. ML/5/90 1855

OWENS William Ruabon Wrexham C.B. RBN/12/65 1857
OWENS William Ruabon Wrexham C.B. RBN/13/3 1858
OWENS William Ruabon Wrexham C.B. RBN/13/75 1859


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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 27 January 08 15:33 GMT (UK) »

Hi Wilcoxon

Thanks again for your interest.
I know in one of the census they are down as Owens, but in all previous and later records it is Owen.
I would have thought the death would be Owen as his wife Frances was registered as Owen on her death cert and he was the informant.

If I could find her burial I'm sure that would help. Do you think I should get in touch with the local record office for Wrexham? Where would that be?

Thanks
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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 27 January 08 16:07 GMT (UK) »

Hi Erika and greetings from Wrexham.  The Wrexham Advertiser web site is great.  It reads like a whos who of the area at the time.  I suppose only those peolpe with money could afford to put in their details then.  I found a death entry for a Francis Owen in 1852.  Was that her?
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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 27 January 08 18:11 GMT (UK) »

Hi Mike

Thanks for your reply.

Yes she was my Frances Owen.
There are also a few birth announcements for her son's children and I was delighted to find them. Smiley

This also makes me think there woild be a gravestone somewhere for Frances, with hopefully William with her.

Very difficult to research properly living on the south coast!

Cheers
Erika Smiley

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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 27 January 08 22:45 GMT (UK) »

May1850       No.5 Births:
On the 15th ult., the wife of Mr. CHARLES OWEN, Draper and Stay-maker, Queen Street, Wrexham, of a daughter

July 1. 1852.     No. 35  Deaths:
23rd, June  Mr. OWEN, son of Mr. OWEN, Yorke-street.
Came across this one,  just before Frances`s death notice.
Who would he be, Huh
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August 1. 1852.     No. 36  Deaths: 
On the 23rd ult., Mrs. OWEN, wife of Mr. W. OWEN, Stay Manufacturer, Yorke-st., Wrexham, aged 63, much respected.  She was a member of the Wesleyan Connextion for thirty-two years.



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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 January 08 12:12 GMT (UK) »

Hi Wilcoxon

Thanks. I did see those in the Wrexham Advertiser.
The death of Mr Owen son of Mr Owen is a mystery to me. I have checked the deaths but can't find another Owen in that qtr for Wrexham.

I only have William and Frances having 2 sons but on the 1841 census I have William at Yorke St with Francis age 15!!!!( Who is that??)

His wife Frances meanwhile on the 1841 census is living in Duddleston Shropshire ( where they all came from originally ) with Richard and Charles their 2 sons.

Sorry to confuse you with all this, but it is complicated and all I really want to find out is when poor William died and where Frances is buried Huh Huh

Thanks for your continued interest
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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 January 08 15:21 GMT (UK) »

Not an answer, but in Slaters Directory 1868 , places of worship list  for Wrexham there are   Methodist Wesleyan Chapels at Regent St, Pentre felin, Bersham, Brymbo,Coedpoeth, Minera and Holt.
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Re: Wesleyan Connextion
« Reply #14 on: Monday 28 January 08 15:50 GMT (UK) »

Hi
Thanks for those chapels.

I had a quick look on a previous post by sem on this board which was about a website for M Is.

There were a couple of William Owen but no Frances.

I also noticed at Coedpoeth Cemetery a few Wilcoxon, anything to do with you?? Smiley

Cheers
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