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« Reply #240 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 23:54 GMT (UK) »

All these are the same family, but  we still haven't got a Ralph b. c1650....

Must go now, my eyes feel like they have been taken out, rolled in sand, and put back, yuk  Tongue

...how about a summary, Lesanne, have you got time?
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« Reply #241 on: Thursday 17 January 08 00:02 GMT (UK) »

Looking for Ralph ...Ralph who ? hee hee LOL .... Turner/Ferrers or Norris ...

here some more NA: not sure if this has anything to do with ours ... posting anyway  Grin

FILE - [no title] - ref. DR 422/101  - date: 17 May 1845

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Declaration by Henry Scott Turner and George Stone that the several terms of 2000 years, 500 years, 1000 years and 1000 years, assigned to them by indentures of 11 May 1839 (no. DR 422/85) and 10 August 1839 (no. DR 422/91) for the better securing the repayment of a debt of £10,000 (see nos. DR 422/83-4) should also be held for the better securing the repayment of a mortgage made by Edward Marmion Ferrers by indenture of even date to secure £2,000 (no. DR 422/100


trying to find Ralphe ... I am musing over whether Roalphe/Ralphus would partake of the joy of sipping ye red or whyte wynes ?

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« Reply #242 on: Thursday 17 January 08 00:06 GMT (UK) »

Looking for Ralph ...Ralph who ? hee hee LOL .... Turner/Ferrers or Norris ...

here some more NA: not sure if this has anything to do with ours ... posting anyway  Grin

FILE - [no title] - ref. DR 422/101  - date: 17 May 1845

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Declaration by Henry Scott Turner and George Stone that the several terms of 2000 years, 500 years, 1000 years and 1000 years, assigned to them by indentures of 11 May 1839 (no. DR 422/85) and 10 August 1839 (no. DR 422/91) for the better securing the repayment of a debt of £10,000 (see nos. DR 422/83-4) should also be held for the better securing the repayment of a mortgage made by Edward Marmion Ferrers by indenture of even date to secure £2,000 (no. DR 422/100


trying to find Ralphe ... I am musing over whether Roalphe/Ralphus would partake of the joy of sipping ye red or whyte wynes ?

deb

Ralph Turner b. c1650 m. Susanna - I imagine Ralphe was, if he had ye readies, heavilie into ye beere (it's a manne thinge...  Grin Grin )
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« Reply #243 on: Thursday 17 January 08 00:14 GMT (UK) »

Nowt to ade to ye folke of the gentry like....tips cap.....wipe ye olde nose on cuff  Roll Eyes  Juste droped in like to say....

deb....read your post, ye olde merry england style, i am fullll of mirth you crack me up.... Kiss  you will have to give lessons on how you get allll that info from the NA.......... I AM FIRST.........

Brambletye, I am in awe you are a wonder at the wills, and make it seem easy, I wish I had that talent.

Lesanne you  must be more than over the moon with all this info..... Shocked  

Nite Guvs....wish I could add more, but lost the plot days back....

Cas  Wink

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Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Bray - Cornwall
Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Flynn -Ireland
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Re: Lesanne's Scavenger Hunt........ Part 4...........Everyone Welcome to join in!!
« Reply #244 on: Thursday 17 January 08 00:26 GMT (UK) »

 Cheesy Hello to ye Cas. Wot brings ya 'ere me gal. Taint no upper crust Iz afraid.
Just a wishing and a hoping.

TURNERS- stuck on olde Ralphidus and Susannahiii

Norris, Henry and Jane Godfrey 1755 Headington.

   and everything else in between is bonus, like 'our' Deb's stuff, Brambles scripts and Toni's eliminations.

Don't know a bod that know's Court Latin do ya  Roll Eyes  Grin
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Berks Bucks Oxon= Norris Coxhead Turner Cox Weston Baston Simpson
Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
Cork=Howe   NZ=Coxhead   Canada=Fenn Cox Turner
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« Reply #245 on: Thursday 17 January 08 00:30 GMT (UK) »

Greeting Cas

As ye canne see, we are travellinge backe to a tyme where people bequeathed theirye beddes and linens to thee beloved sonnes and daughters. I am filled with joyous feelyngs when i set my eyes to reading ye olde wills and wish , with everything, that I too had theese written parchments ..... alas , me olde Gypsies bequeathed and gave to their familie members their thyngs before they became of sicke dyspostion.......

deb  Grin
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« Reply #246 on: Thursday 17 January 08 00:35 GMT (UK) »

 Cheesy Goode nitey gals, I'm to my bedde and coverlette, over bye yon chymney.

Kiddo, Goodly o'the morn.
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« Reply #247 on: Thursday 17 January 08 00:43 GMT (UK) »

May the Angels watch over you Lesanne ...

Posting more , but am lost ...

Information relating to document ref. no. 587/8
Arkingstall, now Anne Phillips), a messuage in Ollerton (Ralph Turner); a messuage in Childs Arcoll (John Turner, now Thomas Clay; a messuage in Stoake upon Terne and lands called the Great Mastis, the Little Mastiss, the Middle Mastis, the Bag field,
Date: 1736.
(Shropshire Archives)

Can't find anything on Ralph and susannah

arrghhhhhhhhh   Undecided

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« Reply #248 on: Thursday 17 January 08 00:49 GMT (UK) »

O Glad a sens o humor prevails........ROFL  Grin  Grin  Grin

I to am also off to my coverlette shortley, alas not by bye yon chymney.   Sad  Sleep well ye gentlefolke....or serf  Grin

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Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Bray - Cornwall
Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Flynn -Ireland
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« Reply #249 on: Thursday 17 January 08 08:30 GMT (UK) »



This lot is anyone's guess:

William Turner  Married at Bray by Licence? – Bride Elizabeth Avelin  on 8 Sep 1616
snr William Turner  Married at Bray by Licence? – Bride Anne Hellier  on 5 Oct 1616
William Turner   Married at Wokingham by Licence? – Bride Martha Sallott  on 25 Sep 1633



perhaps these marriages belong here somewhere



now for Bray!

children of Thomas Turner who m. Elizabeth Caire 01 June 1656
Elizabeth 19 Ja 1658
Thomas 20 sept 1663
Sarah 27 Aug 1665


Children of Ralph & Susannah Turner (we don't know Susanahs maiden name)
Ralph 19 Nov 1679
Elliner 29 Sept 1681
William 08 March 1683
Jane 28 May 1686
Ann 28 Nov 1688
Male 05 Dec 1688  

children of John Turner,
Elizabeth 22 Feb 1702 this marriage seems to fit,  Eliz Turner m. John Townsend 23 May 1724
Susanah 02 April 1705
Ralph 12 Feb 1710
Ann 22 Mar 1713
Sarah 22 Mar 1717 Sarah Turner m. Robert London 14 Oct 1735


Children of Matthew & mary Turner (we don't have know anything about Matthew & Mary, i.e not bapt. marriage for them)
Anne 29 Oct 1722
Matthew 30 Jan 1724
Mary 4 Oct 1725 i(s this Mary? Mary Turner m. John Robertson 07 Jan 1749)
Christian 19 Aug 1727

Children for Robt & Eliz Turner (do we have a bapt. / marriage for them? i can't see one)
Eliz 21 Nov 1719
Mary 28 April 1721
Joseph 22 Jun 1722

Children of Ralph & mary (was this Ralph b. 1679?)
Mary 2 May 1735
Eliz 13 May 1737 (was this her marriage? Elizabeth Turner m. John Johnson 11 nov 1754, the dates certainly tie in)
Thomas 18 March 1739 d. 01 Jun 1740
Charles 26 April 1741
William 31 jan 1748
Robert 8 July 1750


William Turner m. Mary Freeman 13 Oct 1779, these are their children:
Thomas 13 Aug 1780
Mary 29 Sept 1782, was this her marriage?  Mary Turner m. John Day 7 Oct 1810
William 18 Jul 1784 , William Turner m. Elizabeth Buckland 7 nov 1811
Charles 25 Nov 1787 married here, Charles Turner m. Elizabeth Barney 9 nov 1809

& finally

child of Richd Turner & Mary
Richard 18 Oct 1735


unaccounted marriages:
Elizabeth Turner m. Richard Broom 19 Nov 1812
Elizabeth Turner m. Richard Littleton 10 Oct 1772
Edward Turner m. Elizabeth Hop 28 April 1698
jane Turner m. Humphery Hayse April 1682
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« Reply #250 on: Thursday 17 January 08 08:40 GMT (UK) »

I just found this:

Groom – John Turner  Married at Ruscombe by Licence? Bride Grace Lambourne on 22 Oct 1632




The Lambourn connection is in the 1800's is it not?
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« Reply #251 on: Thursday 17 January 08 09:00 GMT (UK) »

don't want to pour cold water on this but we still need to connect all these people together!

heres my crack at the will:~

in the name of god amen I John Turner of .... inteh parish of ...... inteh county of Berks .... being (praysed be god) of good and perfect mind, memory and understanding do hafe and ordian this my last will and testement in writing in manner following whereby int he first part ... ....... my soul into the hand of almighty god my maker hope my to be made partaken of everlasting life and my body I commit to the earth from where it was taken to be .... buried in the parish church of Hingst inthe county of Bucks and as to worldyly estate and ..... and dispose of as followeth (that is to say) ....... my will is that my loving wife Mary shall have the .... and usage of allmy household goods and household stuff whatsoever during her life and from and after her detah then i do herby .... and bequesththe same unto my daughter Elizabeth by my ..... .... and ...... and bequesth ... unto my two sons Johna dn Thomas ..... by a former wife scarally the ..... ....
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« Reply #252 on: Thursday 17 January 08 09:02 GMT (UK) »

Greeting Cas

As ye canne see, we are travellinge backe to a tyme where people bequeathed theirye beddes and linens to thee beloved sonnes and daughters. I am filled with joyous feelyngs when i set my eyes to reading ye olde wills and wish , with everything, that I too had theese written parchments ..... alas , me olde Gypsies bequeathed and gave to their familie members their thyngs before they became of sicke dyspostion.......

deb  Grin

lol

my nan left her bedding and linen to her eldest sons wife!
she died in 1999



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« Reply #253 on: Thursday 17 January 08 09:04 GMT (UK) »

 Cheesy Top 'o the morning to ye Toni...

Yes the Alice Labourne( married Tom Turner c1851) and sister Fanny are.
I need to check I have the right Fanny Lambourne and the right Richard Carter. I have them in Marsh Gibbon with loads of kids.

Fanny I found with Tom in 1871 at Taplow...

In the meantime, still trying to find out about Ralph and Susannah....

Blimey gotta go... Hope to check in later. Not much on today.
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Kent= Nicholls Mepstead Watts   Mile End=Craze Wood Bennett
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« Reply #254 on: Thursday 17 January 08 09:11 GMT (UK) »

Okies... here is John Ferrers alias Turner 1718
2 parts.
 

Very quick go at it:

Testator "of Brightwell, Gent."

To be bur. in Fingest? Churchyard, Bucks
Loving wife Mary - use of all household goods, on her decease to dau. Elizabeth
Dau. Elizabeth,  "by my now wife", her heirs and assigns - messuage and tenement, orchards, gardens and appurts. at Crowin... Gifford(?) in Oxon. lately purchased of John Butler & Frances Redman. (says Frances, could be Francis, scribes being what they were...)
Son John & Thomas Ferrers "by a former wife" - get 12d each "they being already provided for"
Son James Ferrers "by my now wife" - £50

Executrix dau. Elizabeth - who is under 21

Witnesses Margery Astin, Elias Smith

Will Written August 1702 Proved 1718


Hi Toni,

Here's the extracts from the Will - not a lot to go on Sad  and like you, uneasy as to where they fit in if at all.

Come in Ralph - your time is up...  Grin
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