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Barry Emmott
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The Buttery, Christchurch 1861
« on: Sunday 13 January 08 23:48 GMT (UK) »

My gt gt grandfather, James Anderson Emmott, was employed (according to a testimonial) for "upwards of six years" by Henry Grant of The Buttery, Christchurch up to January 1861 after which he appears to have gone back to work as an agent for Pickfords for whom he had worked most of the rest of his life from the 1840s to the 1880s. Can anybody please tell me anything of Henry Grant or The Buttery or of Pickfords in Oxford in the 1850s ?
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Re: The Buttery, Christchurch 1861
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 January 08 13:14 GMT (UK) »

Surely the Buttery was part of the catering department of the college?  ie your chap worked on the  domestic staff at Christ Church. 'College servant' would be the description then & now.  (I wonder if Henry Grant was the Bursar at the time?) Could be quite a cushy gaff - I wonder why he went back to Pickfords?
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Re: The Buttery, Christchurch 1861
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 15:59 GMT (UK) »

yes, i would say the same thing ... 2 of my ancestors were choiristers there, Christchurch is on St Aldates street...my ancestors had the dairy "outlet" in that street from 1730's to 1900 ....maybe we provided the milk for the Buttery  Grin  Grin

I remember going around Christchurch as a child to visit "Alice in Wonderland"'s nursery ..it was a special occasion for me

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Re: The Buttery, Christchurch 1861
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 16:14 GMT (UK) »

there was a Henry Grant living in Pembroke street , no 19 in the 1850's. Pembroke is more or less opposite Christchurch..

i'll look in the census for you .
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Re: The Buttery, Christchurch 1861
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 16:34 GMT (UK) »

it seems that henry Grant was a Butler and Bailiff in 1871, so i presume, responsible for employing the domestics.

in 1861 he was a Butler (college servant) he was born in Ovington , Hants married to Ann and had a family. he had a female servant of his own at his home.

he was born about 1823 and there is death for a Henry Grant born  1822 in 1876 in Oxford .?? Ann , his wife is a widow by 1881.

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Re: The Buttery, Christchurch 1861
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 16:43 GMT (UK) »

Pickford and co were at 4 Queen Street Oxford and they were Carriers by Railway.
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Re: The Buttery, Christchurch 1861
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 16:48 GMT (UK) »

Hi Barry
when was james born and where ?

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Re: The Buttery, Christchurch 1861
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 17:12 GMT (UK) »

it seems that nowadays The Buttery is a bar next to the Hall at Christchurch and serves drinks in the evening... just for the in hall residents i am not sure  Huh


Hope that helps
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Re: The Buttery, Christchurch 1861
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 18:29 GMT (UK) »

James Anderson Emmott (b 1822) was an accountant. His testimonial from Henry Grant says "Mr J. A. Emmott having been employed by me as Clerk and Collector for upwards of six years. I have very much pleasure in stating that I found him of sober, steady and industrious habits, zealous in his endeavours to promote  my interest, punctual in the discharge of his duties, and correct in all his monetary transactions.
The reason of him leaving my service is one over which he had no control. I shall be happy to any questions, and most sincerely hope he may do well."
The testimonial is dated January 5th 1861 and in the 1861 census he is living in Camberwell, London and described as a book-keeper. By the 9th of November, when my gt grandfather was born in Bermondsey, he is described on the Birth Certificate as a Mercantile Clerk and, I believe working for Pickfords again.
His father, who was a mill-owner on the western outskirts of Bradford, had died in 1860 and I know James had to sort out all the businesses.
By early 1862 he was living in Sheerness, Kent and, I believe, working for Pickfords there and in Dover.


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Re: The Buttery, Christchurch 1861
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 14:58 GMT (UK) »

i presume that you have him on the 1851 census in Norfolk with his wife Mary and 9 month old daughter. He is an agent for Carriers then.

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