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Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« on: Monday 14 January 08 12:18 GMT (UK) »

Hello folks.  Sorry to post and run (have to go to work, so it will be about eight hours or so before I can respond to any posts).

I'm looking for any information that can be provided on the following two people who have just been added to the 1851 New Brunswick census transcriptions:

Courtney Ranney - born 1837 St John NB
Emily Ranney - born 1839 St John NB

Parents for both are William Parker Ranney and wife Catherine.  Catherine is a widow by 1844.

ancestry.com shows a Courtney Ranney who eventually died in Cleveland in August 1913 as being born in Canada.  As I don't have a subscription to ancestry.com I'm praying for the charity of someone who does to see if the birth place was St John.

Thank you, and I'll be back in about 8 hours.

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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 January 08 12:56 GMT (UK) »

Have you seen records on family from PANB?- there are lots more but here's a small sample from newspapers:
1838- "d. Monday eve., 5th inst., John Frederick RANNEY s/o W.P. RANNEY, age 5 years 9 mos."
1843- ". Thursday morn., at his residence Germain St., William Parker RANNEY, Esq. of this city (St. John), age 43."
1845- Catherine Elizabeth Ranney d.Bath, England age 20, dau. of late William Parker Ranney.
1855- "m. St. Andrews (Charlotte Co.) Saturday 20th Jan., Edward W.F. ACTON, Esq., 76th Regt. / Helen Maria RANNEY d/o late W.P. RANNEY, Esq. of Topsham, Devonshire, England."
1857- "m. Toronto, 21st ult., at residence of bride's father, by Rev. E. Baldwin, Malcolm RANNEY, M.D. second s/o late W.P. RANNEY, Esq. of Devonshire, England / Marion GRANT youngest d/o John GRANT, Esq., Surgeon."
1887- funeral of Col. Foster "To this company the following officers were appointed:Wm P. RANNEY, captain; Wm HUGHSON, Newton W. GALLOP, Frederick A. WIGGINS, and the subject of this sketch, lieutenants. Shortly after this battalion was known as the St. John city rifle battalion"
1890- "The late W.P. RANNEY of former firm Messrs. Ranney & Sturdee, was the uncle, not the father of Henry R. RANNEY whose death was announced yesterday."
1891- "d. At residence of her son-in-law, Alexander Cartwright CHEWETT, 133 Beverley St., Toronto, 11th inst., Catherine RANNEY widow of Wm Parker RANNEY, Esq. of the Hon. East India Company's Service, 86th year."
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 January 08 13:01 GMT (UK) »

1880 census- Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio:
Courtney Ranney age 44 born Nova Scotia parents b.England, wife, 2 sons (b.Indiana) & others in household.
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 January 08 14:30 GMT (UK) »

I think with both forename being so rare, & birthdate so close,  aghadowey has your man. New Brunswick & Nova Scotia have been exchanged for each other on censuses before.
List of other Ranney in Cleveland, probably next generation
http://www.ancestorinfo.com/Genealogy,%20Cleveland,%20OH%20Biographies,%201927%20L-Z%20Surnames.htm
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 January 08 14:50 GMT (UK) »

A bit more:
Catherine Ranney (30) wife of Mr. W.P. Ranney7 of St. John with children William Robert Hocking (11), Elizabeth Catherine (Cool, William (4), John Frederick (2), Maria Sargeant (7 wks) on Brig Latona from Exeter 11 Apr.1834 arriving in St. John 24 May 1834.
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/passengerlists/sjlists1834.htm

Sad, but may be connected?:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9506EEDF1E38E033A25750C0A9649C94679FD7CF
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 January 08 16:12 GMT (UK) »

Nice one aghadowey !  Smiley J.J.

W.P Ranney tombstone inscript., but no date /aged 48 yrs....but with birth in 1794 Topsham / he must have died around 1842
http://tinyurl.com/34zsrj

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Botsford_Jarvis
 Margaret, daughter of William Parker Ranney married son of above
http://www.sewallgenealogy.com/p192.htm

"To William P. Ranney, the sum of thirty seven pounds eleven shillings and two pence, being for Return Duties on Wine, Brandy, Geneva and Whiskey, destroyed by fire at Fredericton on second August last. "
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Trail/8616/york2.html
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 January 08 16:46 GMT (UK) »

I wonder if the William on the ship's list was Malcolm (IGI born 1829 Topsham ) ?  Smiley J.J.
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Oh, now I see, they inter-changed names often, did they?  Roll Eyes
http://automatedgenealogy.com/censusnb51/View.jsp?id=7944&highlight=22
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 January 08 23:41 GMT (UK) »

Thanks very much Aghadowey and J.J. for all the responses.

The PANB site is incredible.  I discovered it about six months ago and have obtained quite a bit of my Ranney info for that particular generation from it.  That Daniel F Johnson left quite a legacy when he passed away.  It is also very tough to read - it's amazing the drastic methods these Ranney folks chose to die in so many instances.  I read the St John paper notification of those three children drowning; I believe that paper spelled their name Rannie or Rennie.  The one I found the most heartbreaking was the account of a two year old who died "in great agony" when he fell into a vat of boiling water.

You folks are amazing with your ability to track down such a diverse group of records so fast.  While I confess to already having alot of it, it took me eons to gather what you located in a couple of hours.

Here's how I read what you found:

The log for the brig Latona did show two Williams.  My idea has always been that the youngest William had to indeed by Malcolm.  I know names were often recycled when children died but with both being very much alive at that point, one name had to be wrong.

By date and age matching, I dated the Tombstone inscription at 1843.

Margaret did marry William Dummer Jarvis, and by doing so, became part of a very storied family in the Toronto area.

The Maria Sargent mentioned on the brig Latona log married Alexander Cartwright Chewett and became part of another very storied family in the Toronto area.  The Chewett family and the Jarvis family basically owned the city.

William Parker Ranney and a business partner imported a large amount of wine and other goods from China.  This shipment burned up in the Fredericton dockyards before they were able to get their hands on any of it and the two of them fought the government at the time tooth and nail to get back the duties that they had pre-paid - a whopping 37 pounds, eleven shillings and two pence.  I wonder what that would equate to in today's financial market.

The William Hocking Ranney mentioned on the log of the Brig Latona, basically disappeared off the face of the earth.  He's specifically mentioned in dad's will as "not entitled to any benefit".  Makes one wonder what he did to cheese off his father.

Back to Courtney and Emily:

PANB records show an Emily Ranney marrying Charles J. Borton in 1857.  These records identify Emily as third daughter of Henry Parke Ranney (could be Parker, and if so is likely related as the Parker name was adopted as a second name by the Ranney family for generations).  I wonder if Henry Parker Ranney died and Catherine and William Parker Ranney adopted her.  If so, where does Henry Parker Ranney fit in?

Nice to get the information on Courtney.  I've got a buddy in Cleveland checking out Courtney from that end and may eventually get some concrete proof that he's the same one mentioned in the 1851NB census.

Questions, questions.

Once again, thank you, both for the info and for indulging me while I rambled on about the adventures of WP Ranney and his kids.

Steve

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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 09:34 GMT (UK) »

Steve- think the answer to one of your questions is here:
PANB records show an Emily Ranney marrying Charles J. Borton in 1857. These records identify Emily as third daughter of Henry Parke Ranney (could be Parker, and if so is likely related as the Parker name was adopted as a second name by the Ranney family for generations). I wonder if Henry Parker Ranney died and Catherine and William Parker Ranney adopted her. If so, where does Henry Parker Ranney fit in?
1890- "The late W.P. RANNEY of former firm Messrs. Ranney & Sturdee, was the uncle, not the father of Henry R. RANNEY whose death was announced yesterday."
(think this should be Henry P. Ranney).
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 10:20 GMT (UK) »

The Henry R Ranney referred to in that article was Henry Roycroft Ranney, son of Charles Edward Ranney and Cecilia (You'll find Cecilia referred to as Mrs. Ranney in a lot of those clippings, i.e. funeral was held at Mrs. Ranneys).  I thought it could have been him too but Henry Roycroft was born in 1841 and for Emily to be marrying in 1857 her and Henry Roycroft would have to be close to the same age.

Thanks for the thought though.

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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 10:46 GMT (UK) »

Sorry, thought for a minute that was the answer. At least you have lots of things in PANB but did notice the name was under various spellings which makes it harder to find them all.
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 18:11 GMT (UK) »

I think there is a very forgiving aspect to that database which allows for "begins with" etc...which should help...

With reference to the business noted above though...Here's a name on the New Navy List of Officer's Service under Masters..... showing perhaps the partner's children married: Pages 150, 151 & 153 ( or so it says, but I only found the one)
http://tinyurl.com/yp6eto
& Massey's magazine, page 20....maybe about the wine incident  Grin
http://books.google.com/books?id=rh4AAAAAYAAJ&dq=ranney+%26+sturdee
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 23:17 GMT (UK) »

Thanks very much J.J.
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 17 January 08 19:04 GMT (UK) »

You're welcome... and I only just read now that there was a newspaper entry for W.P.'s death in 1843 in aghadowey 's 1st reply. I've become a skimmer... Roll Eyes
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 20 January 08 04:27 GMT (UK) »


...Margaret did marry William Dummer Jarvis, and by doing so, became part of a very storied family in the Toronto area...


I have just joined this forum today after spotting this message with a reference to "Dummer" in New Brunswick.  I am trying to gather as much information as I can about anyone of the last name Dummer in the province, and especially in the area of St. John.  Unfortunately, I have come up with very little so far online.  Do you have any additional information you can share with me about William Dummer Jarvis?  Maybe that will lead to something useful!  Many thanks! 

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