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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 20 January 08 05:48 GMT (UK) »

Hello, Dave, and welcome to rootschat!  feel free to start a query....
Just mark in the subject line  something like Dummer - New Brunswick
and you will get lots of help... J.J.
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 20 January 08 05:54 GMT (UK) »

Hello Dave

The Jarvis and Powell families both used the name Dummer in several generations.  The individual they were apparently honoring was William Dummer from Massachusetts.  Here's a link to his Wikipedia story:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Dummer

Here's a link to my rootsweb genealogy chart.  Select the 1755 William Dummer Powell from the alphabetical listing and you can follow the name trail through the Powell and Jarvis families:

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=atkinson1&I11.x=18&I11.y=6

Here's a few links that will tell you about the Powell and Jarvis families:

Biography of William Dummer Powell:

http://www.biographi.ca/EN/ShowBio.asp?BioId=37202&query=

Sewell Genealogy details William Dummer Jarvis:

http://sewellgenealogy.com/p128.htm#i8458

I don't believe any of this will help you with the St John aspect, other than that is where Margaret Ranney was born.  She married William Dummer Jarvis.

I'm sure there are more people out there who will provide additional links.

Steve
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 03 July 08 19:33 BST (UK) »

Hi,

I was just going back through some old messages, and came across this one again.   I thought I had replied to say thank you, but see now that I did not-- my apologies!  These are great links and very helpful-- I appreciate your feedback!!!

-DD
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 03 July 08 20:20 BST (UK) »

Had you found this will? page 81...
http://books.google.ca/books?id=MaEIFoCfZJIC&pg=PA81&lpg=PA81&dq
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 03 July 08 22:11 BST (UK) »

Maria in England:  http://www.rootschat.com/links/03rm/ 
The house was then purchased by Edmund Littler Johnson and Mrs Maria Susan Chewett * became its tenant in 1909.
Mrs Chewett arrived in England from Canada in 1898. With her were her daughters and youngest son, Albert Ranney Chewett.
The son joined the Herkomer Art School and was active in music and painting before turning to photography. His mother and sisters were skilled in wood-working, metal work, lace making and book-binding.  Albert bought the estate in 1921 and in 1931 married Violet Georgiana Eila Chewett. She had a talent for music and dancing. The billiard room was converted into a dance studio where Eila taught well into the 1950s. Albert died in 1965 and Eila qualified and practiced as a medical secretary until she was 75.
* although she was named Maria Sargeant Ranney ( from IGI extracted)
his artwork :
http://www.cornucopia.org.uk/html/search/verb/GetRecord/6441
 http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=freer&id=I53321
Nice site, but you need to tell them his mother was Maria!
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 03 July 08 22:50 BST (UK) »

Might that be William Hocking Ranney in 1881 Grand Traverse, Michigan
William RANNIE age 58 NEW BRUNSWICK Farmer...parents born Scotland....
with wife Isabella & several children including a William Cole?
It isn't unusual for census to have place where raised instead of where born...
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 03 July 08 23:44 BST (UK) »

Dave

No problem - I've had problems with replies going into the twilight zone too with this site.  I suspect it has to do with hitting the send button at the same time as another response is coming in.

J.J.

Thanks for the links.  William Rannie is the right age but the parents born in Scotland thing doesn't jive.  William Robert Hocking Ranney's father was born in Great Yarmouth England and his mother from what I've been able to gather was born in England and moved to India as a child.  Still, the New Brunswick reference is interesting.  I think I'll do a bit of back checking on the William Rannie you found and see what pops up.

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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #22 on: Friday 04 July 08 01:24 BST (UK) »

IGI submission has a William Rennie born Feb. 21 1821 Chatham, New Brunswick, Canada who died March 26 1886 Traverese City, Michigan....His first wife...Margaret Fenton...
Trouble is, this might discount him, however often information is garnered from censuses, which are often wrong...

ie: check this out, that a pedigree file submitted by:
Landed Gentry  c/o Medieval Families Unit, 50 E North Temple St, Salt Lake City
Has William Parker Ranney as born in St John, New Brunswick
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #23 on: Friday 04 July 08 02:48 BST (UK) »

You're right about the census info often being wrong - especially with the spelling.  I guess it all depended on how literate the individual standing at the door taking down the names was.

Concerning one of your previous links, I managed to obtain a scanned copy of the handwritten last will and testament of William Parker Ranney from the British Government Records website.  It's amazing what's out there once you find out where to look.

Here, by the way, is a copy of the wedding announcement for the William Rennie you are referring to:

Daniel F. Johnson : Volume 12 Number 2851

Date April 1 1850
County Northumberland
Place Chatham
Newspaper The Gleaner and Northumberland Schediasma

The language of the text is the original used in the newspaper entry and as transcribed by Daniel F. Johnson. Records acquired by the Provincial Archives are not translated from the language in which they originate.

m. Chatham (North. Co.) Friday, by Rev John McCurdy, William RENNIE, Newcastle / Miss Margaret FENTON, Chatham parish.


and here's his death announcement:

Daniel F. Johnson : Volume 66 Number 2575

Date April 21 1886
County Northumberland
Place Newcastle
Newspaper Union Advocate

The language of the text is the original used in the newspaper entry and as transcribed by Daniel F. Johnson. Records acquired by the Provincial Archives are not translated from the language in which they originate.

The 'Grand Traverse Herald' of Traverse City, Michigan announces the death of Wm RENNIE, a native of Douglastown (North. Co.) N.B. He was 65 years old. Mr. Rennie, who took up his residence at Grand Traverse in November 1851 was an agriculturalist, his farm of several hundred acres said to be one of the richest and best in the country.



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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #24 on: Friday 04 July 08 04:09 BST (UK) »

Holy Mackerel I just reread my last entry and didn't put that the father was thought to be Robert Rannie...so sorry about that
Just a thought, have you proof that he was a son of the couple for certain?
 Roll Eyes  J.J.
Just looked at the 1851 again...using "Rennie" there is a William & a Margaret
and it does say "Birth" meaning born there....
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/censusnb51/SplitView.jsp?id=3349
and there is a Robert on page, but looks more as though the John on page might be father...
Sorry about that, should have searched for that spelling before....
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Re: Courtney Ranney - St John New Brunswick
« Reply #25 on: Friday 04 July 08 12:18 BST (UK) »

I have all kinds of proof that William Robert Hocking Ranney was the son of William Parker Ranney and Catherine Cuthbert.  I have proof he was born in Colabah India on 9 January 1823 and came over to Saint John, New Brunswick with his mother and his siblings onboard a ship out of Exeter England called the Brig Latona on 24 May 1834.  When you read the will of William Parker Ranney it has a statement "except my eldest son, William Robert Hocking Ranney who is not to be entitled to any share thereof".  It goes further to say that the trustees, in lieu of benefit, are to provide William Robert Hocking Ranney 100 pounds as needed.  This to me indicates that he either had a falling out with his father or was in some way mentally infirmed and unable to look after his affairs himself.  From that point, William Robert Hocking Ranney falls off the face of the earth.   Even more curious, I can't seem to locate any school records for William Robert Hocking Ranney.

This other family of Rannie's (or Rennie's) is interesting because of the date of birth and the New Brunswick location but I really don't think the William is the one I'm looking for.

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