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1871 and 1881 census WOOLWICH (KENT)

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fizzybubble
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1871 and 1881 census WOOLWICH (KENT)
« on: Thursday 06 January 05 18:27 GMT (UK) »

I am trying to find the following family :

Philip Alfred Thirlwall
Elizabeth Sarah Thirlwall (nee STOVOLD)

and any children they may have had.

Would also like to know where Philip was born.

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Re: 1871 and 1881 census WOOLWICH (KENT)
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 January 05 18:42 GMT (UK) »

Hi Fizzybubble

Have you any idea when they were born or the names/ages/birthplaces of any children? It just makes searching a bit easier sometimes.

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Re: 1871 and 1881 census WOOLWICH (KENT)
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 January 05 18:48 GMT (UK) »

Hi
On the 1871 census there is only one PHILIP THIRWALL aged 2 born Bedlington, Northumberland.
There are a few Elizabeth Stovolds, the youngest being aged 6 b Puttenham, Surrey.
Would you like the details of these, or are they too young?
Would you like me to look on a later census for the couple?
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Re: 1871 and 1881 census WOOLWICH (KENT)
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 January 05 18:54 GMT (UK) »

Thanks very much for replying.

Philip Alfred Thirlwall and Elizabeth Stovold married at Aldershot on 09.04.1863.

They had George in 1867 and he was baptised in Woolwich and this is why I wanted to see if the family was still in the area in 1871 and 1881.

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Re: 1871 and 1881 census WOOLWICH (KENT)
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 January 05 19:33 GMT (UK) »

Hi Fizzybubble

1871

9 Portland St, Elswick, Newcastle

Philip A THIRLWALL head mar 42 pensioner - labourer ........... wks b.Hide Cheshire
Elizabeth S wife 32 b.Farnham Surrey
Charles J A son 7 b.Farnham Surrey
Elizabeth J dau 5 b.Harwich Essex
George son 3 b.Woolwich
Annie A dau 9m b.Newcastle on Tyne
Henry STOVOLD nursechild 10m b.Newcastle on Tyne

RG10/5082 folio 48 page 14

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Re: 1871 and 1881 census WOOLWICH (KENT)
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 January 05 20:20 GMT (UK) »

Hiya casalguidi,

That is totally brilliant and totally unexpected but helps me with linking them to Manchester which I was trying to do too (and the North) --brill brill.

If you were able to find them in 1871, would it be too much trouble to ask you to find them in 1881 and 1891 too.

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Re: 1871 and 1881 census WOOLWICH (KENT)
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 January 05 20:31 GMT (UK) »

1891

7 Sykes St, Hulme, Lancashire

Phillip A THIRLWALL head mar 62 gen lab b.Hyde Cheshire

Elizabeth A wife 52 b.Farnham Surrey
Alice dau 17 button driller b.Manchester
Albert W son 13 emery cloth coverer b.Manchester
Henry S nephew 20 button ........... b.Newcastle

RG12/3195 folio 133 page 24

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Re: 1871 and 1881 census WOOLWICH (KENT)
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 January 05 20:45 GMT (UK) »

I can't find them in 1881 - sorry Sad

That's not to say that they're not there - I just couldn't find them Huh

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Re: 1871 and 1881 census WOOLWICH (KENT)
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06 January 05 21:04 GMT (UK) »

Thankyou so very much. I couldnt find them on the LDS 1881 census. I wonder where they were - can I solve the mystery. Perhaps they were out of the country Huh

? Not very likely I suppose. I shall press on and if I find them I shall be sure to tell you.

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Re: 1871 and 1881 census WOOLWICH (KENT)
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 06 January 05 21:09 GMT (UK) »

You can also search the 1881 on here but the indexing is no better than LDS. You can search on birthplace though ie. Hyde:

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/

Good luck

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Re: 1871 and 1881 census WOOLWICH (KENT)
« Reply #10 on: Friday 07 January 05 14:12 GMT (UK) »

Hiya casaguidi (tried to spell that from memory so I hope that I am right)

Burning with curiosity now. Is there any way that you can find out for me where Philip was and with whom in 1841, 1851 or 1861 ?

Thanks

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Re: 1871 and 1881 census WOOLWICH (KENT)
« Reply #11 on: Friday 07 January 05 14:26 GMT (UK) »

Censuses earlier than 1871 are sparsely indexed and you need to know which town/area to look at. If he is a pensioner at 42 (in 1871) though; chances are that he was in the army/services somewhere.

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