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John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty)COMPLETED - thanks
« on: Monday 14 January 08 16:39 GMT (UK) »

Good evening,

John HAVENS was possibly born in Longcot around 1700 and married an Elizabeth (Betty Something probably around 1727, again possibly in Longcot.

They appear to have had about 6 children between 1728 and 1744, all of them born in Longcot:
Elizabeth b. 1728; Mary b. 1730; John, b. 1732; Ann b. 1735; Sarah b. 1738 and Thomas b. 1744.

If someone has access to the PR's for Longcot I would be very pleased to get my hands on their date of marriage, and -who knows - even their baptisms, which should be around the 1700 - 1705 mark at a guess.

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Nick
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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 06:54 GMT (UK) »

Nothing in Longcot for their marriage or baptism.

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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 January 08 10:28 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for your trouble looking. At least that eliminates one possibility !

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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 January 08 18:12 GMT (UK) »

Hi Nick
I'm working on this one myself
I have a lead though
Compton Beauchamp, Berkshire, 1827
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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 January 08 19:07 GMT (UK) »

Hallo John,

Is Compton Beauchamp anywhere near Faringdon, Longcot etc ?

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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 January 08 20:26 GMT (UK) »

Compton Beauchamp is fairly close to this area, comes under the Faringdon registration district.

John Havens married Betty GOLDING 30 Nov 1727. Looks like she was from Longcot.

Possibly her baptism at Longcot
1705 Sep 10 Elizabeth d/o Abraham & Mary, Fernham

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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 January 08 07:27 GMT (UK) »

Hi Ian
Thanks for taking the time to look
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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 January 08 09:42 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for the lead and info John and Ian. I'll follow it up.

Ian, where did the John HAVENS/Betty GOLDING marriage take place please ? Was it in Longcot or Compton Beauchamp ?

I've found another Betty GOLDING, just to confuse matters, b. Compton Beauchamp 01.08.1700, parents Richard and Margaret. Would make her a bit long in the tooth to have a last child at 44 years old, but not impossible. Of the 2 Elizabeths in Longcot, I agree that the most likely is the one baptised 10th September 1705.

You've been of great help.

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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 January 08 23:26 GMT (UK) »

The marriage was at Compton Beauchamp.

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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 20 January 08 23:43 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for the confirmation.

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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 21:02 GMT (UK) »

Hi Ian

Cant give us the wittinesses at the marridge, if poss

might be a lead to find john

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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 22 January 08 23:40 GMT (UK) »

Don't think there were any witnesses named. Will check tonight.

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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 23 January 08 18:35 GMT (UK) »

Hi all

Help to decide which Betty

Abraham Married Mary Horne 23 Dec 1696 Shivenham
Chidren Mary 1697, Betty 1705,  Abraham 1708, Thomas 1715

Richard Married Margret Beams 7 May 1699, Compon Beauchamp
Children Betty 1700 also from Compton

The best lead I think is Richards Parents look like to be William and Betty 1 April 1677 also from Compton

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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 24 January 08 09:44 GMT (UK) »

Interesting one John,

Where's Shivenham in relation to Compton Beauchamp and Faringdon ?
Hold on, I've just found it ! It's a toss up I guess.

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Re: John HAVENS & Elizabeth (Betty) - Longcot
« Reply #14 on: Friday 08 February 08 23:41 GMT (UK) »

Longcot Burials

1783 Jan 14
FURBELO els HEAVENS Elizabeth, widow, 83, d ---- GOLDING, died of old age.

There are a few other HEAVENS entries with the FURBELO alias around this time as well. Looks Italian to me. Might be why they cannot be found before John's marriage to Betty GOLDING. He may have been born FURBELO in some other country.

Just a thought.

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