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Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« on: Monday 14 January 08 18:48 GMT (UK) »

Hi all,

I have a Roger Oakden  on census from 1841-1861 but can't find him after this. The only likely death record I can find is for 1873 in Gloucester, Gloucestershire aged 87 but this is confusing as he's older than on census and can't be found on the 1871 census.

In 1841 he is living 18 Victoria st, St Michael, Gloucestershire age 45

In 1851 he is living 1 Bear land, St Nicholas, Gloucester age 58

In 1861 he is living 21 Westgate st, St Nicholas, Gloucester age 70

He was born Stanton, Staffordshire and wife Charlotte was with him on above census her death seems to have been in 1865 in Gloucester.

I know of 4 children of Roger and Charlotte

Edwin b. abt 1828 Stourport, Worcestershire
Edith  b. abt 1832 Stourport  Worcestershire
Fanny b. abt 1835 Stourport, Worcestershire
Mary Ann b. abt 1838 Stourport, Worcestershire

I know that Edith married Duncan Stuart (b. Scotland) who was a prison governer in Norfolk which is where they moved to  but know nothing of the rest of Roger's children.
If anyone  can shed any more light on this family for me that would be wonderful.

Thanks for reading

Anjo.
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JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 January 08 18:52 GMT (UK) »




   Hi  ....

  I can see a possible death for son Edwin ....

 Edwin Smith Oakden b @1828 died 1870 Q3 Cheltenham Glouc.

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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 January 08 18:55 GMT (UK) »




    Was Roger a Clerk?

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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 January 08 18:56 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tazzie,


  wow your quick this evening. Yeah I saw that too but not sure about it as I don't know where the smith comes from. His mother was a Harrison before marriage and not sure of her parents. Poss parents for Roger weren't smiths...unless I have that wrong. Plus I have only been able to find him on the 1841 census with parens age 13 and nothing after that.

But thanks a million for trying for me I really appreciate it.

All the best Angela.
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JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 January 08 18:56 GMT (UK) »

Roger was an Agent  Wink


................. a comercial agent
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JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 January 08 19:07 GMT (UK) »




  Ok ......lets go with this one .....

  1871   

  Duncan Campbell hd m 62 customs out  ? officer
   Emma                  wi m 46
  Louise                  dau un 20
  Collin  L                son un 15 clerk in merchant office
Edwin                    son un 12       d/o
George                  son       8 scholar
Ernest                   son       6 scholar
Isabellah               dau      3
ROGER OAKDEN FATHER IN LAW w 35 ! RETIRED CLERK    STAFFORD SHROPS
Elizabeth Jones    lod un   (42/62) dress maker

  Gloucester  Parliament St  RG10/2616 F 14 P 22

  Age is Waaayyyy out   and Elizabeth is indexed as Oakden but she is clearly Jones....So did he have an Emma as well?

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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 January 08 19:23 GMT (UK) »

Rodger is 85 on the 1871
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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #7 on: Monday 14 January 08 19:29 GMT (UK) »




   We know what it should be ..... Grin  Enumerator having a bad day here.

   Just goes to show why some do not show up on a search.

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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 January 08 19:33 GMT (UK) »



   Well there was an Emma Oakden....

  marriages  1850 Q1 Cheltenham Gloucs

  Emma Harrison Oakden/ Oagden  (both names given) 2 entries
  Duncan Campbell    on same page

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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #9 on: Monday 14 January 08 19:44 GMT (UK) »




   Fanny Selina Oakden  married George Frederic Bagnall

  St James Westminister 1858 Q2

  They are in Cambridge in 1861 if you would like the details.

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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #10 on: Monday 14 January 08 19:47 GMT (UK) »

there is a 14 year old Emma Oakden  and Martin Oakden 10  tacked onto the end of Andrew Bird boatbuilder and family  at Cherry Orchard Lower Mitton Worcs  in 1841

I see Charity/Charlottes birthplace was Mitton
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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #11 on: Monday 14 January 08 19:52 GMT (UK) »

 Worcester St Martin marriage
14.08.1825 groom Roger Oakden widower bride Charlotte Harrison
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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #12 on: Monday 14 January 08 19:53 GMT (UK) »



  Good find .

 As for Martin he only shows in 1841 and there is a possible death 1847 Kidderminster.

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  Just seen marriage that ties them in nicely Grin
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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #13 on: Monday 14 January 08 20:12 GMT (UK) »

wow guys...just wonderful.

   I didn't think you'd be able to find much more on them but this is all great stuff.

        I'm just gobsmacked.

Thanks a million. I really appreciate all your time and trouble. you have been a godsend.

These missing pieces are making for a better picture.

Thanks a million

Angela
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
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Re: Oakden family of Gloucester need some help
« Reply #14 on: Monday 14 January 08 20:21 GMT (UK) »

Hi just to confirm things a bit more.


Andrew Bird married Ann Harrison 24 FEB 1824   Saint Martin, Worcester, Worcester, England


Ann could be Charlottes sister and aunt to Martin and Emma!! all very interesting.

You guys have made my night.

Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire
JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire.
HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield
MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich.
ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton
JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk
MACK - london and nottingham.
STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire
Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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