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Bryant
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Grandfather Bryant 1897
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I'm looking for William Ray in 1861 (I have the 1861 but can't see him but I do use a different Census supplier to most of you)..........seen below various 1871 to 1901, he states he's born Stanmore, well in Little Stanmore in 1841 their are only 8 Ray's.....do I assume he is a descendant of one of them?
The William I'm looking for is in blue
1841
Burnt Oak, Little Stanmore
Isaac Ray 45 lab N
Elizabeth " 42 y
Robert " 13 lab y
Septamus " 11 y (1861 in Stepney and married to Louisa...one son named Sidney aged 10)
William " 6 y
John " 1 y
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1841
Burnt Oak, Little Stanmore
Thomas Ray 14 Y (1861 In Willesden and married to Sarah ...no children)
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1841
Stone Grove, Little Stanmore
Henry Ray 17 Y
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1901 census
172, Farringdon Bldgs, Clerkenwell, London
William Ray head 48 Horse Keeper Stanmore, Middlesex
Martha " wife 47 Brentford, Middlesex
Robert " son 16 Van boy " "
Minnie " daur 5 Clerkenwell
Rose Harvey daur (mar) 21 Brentford, Middlesex
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1891 census
74, St James Residence, St James, Westminster
William Ray head 36 Coachman Elstree, Middlesex
Martha M " wife 34 Brentford, Middlesex
Rosa F " daur 11 " "
William S " son 9 " "
Charles F " son 7 " "
Robert H " son 5 " "
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1881 census
18 Trafalger Terrace, Ealing, Middlesex
William Ray Son In Law (Head) 23 coachman Stanmore, Middlesex
Martha M " Daur (Wife) 24 Brentford, Middlesex
Rosa F " Daur 1 Brentford, Middlesex
Eliza Newnam Mother (Wid) 59 laundress Brentford, Middlesex
Edward " Grandson 15 shop boy Brentford, Middlesex
Thomas " Grandson 18 shop boy Brentford, Middlesex
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1871 census
103 Great Portland Street, Marylebone, Middlesex
William H Ayling head 53 physician Portsea, Kent
Jane " wife 45 Lincoln
Arthur H W " son 25 student of medicine "
James P James assistant 20 dispensing assistant Carmarthanshire
Emma Randell serv 31 cook Marylebone
Ellen Bridges " 22 domestic servant Surrey
William Ray " 15 errand boy Stanmore, Middlesex
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Researching names BRYANT (Camberwell), PASTERFIELD (Essex and all), RAY (Holborn/Islington areas back to Brentford), POWELL (Glouc & beyond?) Fletcher (Glouc into Warwickshie into Lancs?), BUCKLEY (Chatham area), Watson (Chatham area). Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Dave Francis
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Hi Bryant
Drawn a blank here I'm afraid. I assume he was the William Ray who was married in the June quarter of 1877 in Brentford, volume 3a page 70. (Matching ref: Martha Maria Newman) The marriage certificate should of course identify his father.
Dave
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Bryant
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Grandfather Bryant 1897
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Hello Dave and thankyou for looking
I drew the same blank!
Their is something funny going on?........you would have noticed that his wife in the marriage was Martha Maria Lee Newman and many of William & Martha's children had the name Lee before the Ray which suggests to me it is from her side of the family and lo & behold..........her parents with a Lee in 1841 which suggests that Thomas may have been married before (10 year old son?) and the 10 year old Sophia Lee is Eliza's (aged 20-24) sister?..........consequently Eliza wanted the name Lee in their children's names to denote who the mother was!
1841
Plough Yard, New Brentford, Middx
Thomas Newman 30 stone sawyer Y
Eliza " 20 Y
Charles " 10 y
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Sophia Lee 10 Y
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However that hasn't anything to do with William and where he is in 1861 unless something similiar has happened ie a male Ray from Stanmore married and a son named William was born but the father died 1855-1860 and the mother remarried and she and William took the new name until William left home and he reverted to source...........hang on, a pig just flew by
Are the Ray's in Stanmore (Great or Little) in 1851 (I don't have access to the 1851)
Certs.........this is the wife's lot and I have a few certs somewhere (I lost all the genealogy just over a year ago when the Pc decided without consultation to stop taking the tablets and died on me!) but I will purchase the cert if I have to, god knows iv'e been keeping her for 37 years whats another £7-00 
Regards
Bryant
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