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franpow
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I wondered if anyone could assist me. I sent for my G.Grandfathers death certificate. Frederck Hollis 11th Feb1878.Woods Lane Derby. aged 36yrs. His occupation is down as a Gingerbeer Manufacturer,
Would this mean he had his own company?
What chances are there of finding any references to it. I have searched various directories, without any results.
I ask this as written on his sons William Hollis marriage cert (1923) Frederick Hollis is down as being of "Independent means. which inturn leads me to think he may not have just been a laborer. Or am I have delusions of grandeur.
Thank you in advance for any advice or help on this matter.
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suzard
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have you searched directories?
I had a quick look 1870's-and found in Derby
Thomas Hollis Chemist Friar gate
Frederick Hollis Confectioner brook St
www.historicaldirectories.org
There is also a Hollis &Co soda water manufacturers in Leicester -may be some family Connection???
Suz
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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Alvaston Lad
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I pass woods lane every day, there was at the time a spa water manufacture there, the factory has been demolished, but their is a row of cottages called Spa Cottages, and W. E. B and date also on the wall, and a Spa Villa around the corner on Stockbrook Street, the W.E.B stood for William Ebenezer Burrows, he owned the Spa Water Works and workers Cottages on Woods Lane and formed the Mineral Water Company Burrows & Sturgis, maybe your relative lived in one of his cottages and made gingerbeer at Burrows Spa Water Works, just a Theory
I notice that on the 1891 census Hannah Hollis is remaried to a Shreeve at 2 Woods Lane and between 10 and 16 Woods lane is Listed as " Ginger Beer Manufacturer". or i will looke at the dates on the cottages, Burrows may have took over after Frederick Hollis's death
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Betts - Derby/Hadleigh, Suffolk
Caudwell - Dbys/ Teversall, Notts
Hanson/ Henson - Alvaston/ Melbourne Dbys, Burton on Trent, Staffs
Eastham/Edge - Chorley, Lancs
Roome - Riddings, Dbys
Barber - Melbourne/ Kings Newton, Dbys
Gadsby - Breedon on the Hill, Lei
Powdrill - Breedon on theHill, Lei
Hopkinson - Shirland/Brackenfield, Dbys
Hunt/Wood/Oldfield - Sth Wingfield, Dbys
Carnell - Darley, Dbys
Barker - York / Derby
Morton - Derby
Frost & Newton - Heanor, Dbys
Hill-Tibshelf, Dby
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franpow
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Thank you so much. You are correct about Woods Lane.(I thought it was an Off Licence now? I wish I had a photo of the place)Hannah, with sons Frederick, William (my grandfather) and Fanny Hollis appears to have merged with Charles Shreeve.
As a matter of interest, Frederick Hollis, The Gingerbeer Manufacturer, on his death cert was it seems a baker before changing trades and the poor man dying of Tonsillitis.
The only thing outstanding now is that Fredericks mother Eliza could not write, and her surname was either Reeks or Burks. I just cannot read the name.
Again, thank you so much for your valuable help on this.
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franpow
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Hello again, I last wrote to you in Jan 08. About my G.Grandfather living in Woods Lane Derby. I journeyed there briefly last week, sadly I forgot to take a photo of the Spa building you mentioned in our last email. Would it be rude of me to ask if you could take a photo of the Spa water building, or cottages. I would be so grateful for your kind help. We took a photo of the 2 Woods Lane. with the John Bull advert large as life displayed.
I'm also attempting to discover the name of the Pub when Fredrick Hollis run it(1878), is there anyway of finding this info out. I've tried the Brewers Society they couldn't help at all.
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goff153
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What pub? I can't see a pub mentioned before.
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hireman
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Hi There,
I found this some years ago,if you would like it, let me know and i will gladly send it to you.
Kind Regards
Ken
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richsher
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Frederick's mother Eliza is my 3x Great Aunt. She was born Eliza Ball in 1818 in Sudbury. She married Edward Hollis (Frederick's father) on 8 Jan 1837 at Sudbury. Edward died in 1845. In 1851, she was married to Joseph Tranter, who was a grocer living on Burton Road. In the 1881 census, she appears as Eliza Berks and lived with her son William, who ran The Old Spa Inn on Abbey Street. Hope this helps.
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franpow
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richsher, You cannot imagine how thrilled I am at this news. You have given me Eliza's Maiden name of which I've been perplexed for some time. I have trawled through Ancestry.Co.UK for months. Finding Edward was a gift. I had been shuffling around in the dark for ages. The surname Berk's became a slight problem as I had sent for the death cert for her son, Frederick (My GGrandfather.) she was present at his demise.Sadly, I couldn't;t understand the writing and only presumed Berk's was the surname.
So, if Eliza was your great Aunt, did she have a sister or brother?.
This has fueled me into searching for her parents.
Thank you so much.
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richsher
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Hi, I hope you don't confused too much by your new family! Most of the information comes from the censuses, so here it goes:
Eliza's parents were John Ball (1792-1883) and Anne (1790-1871). Anne was born in Bradley, near Ashbourne. John, I believe, was born in Sudbury (but the censuses sometimes show Birmingham). He was a soldier, possibly in the 76th foot regiment. They lived in the Sudbury area, around Potter Somersall and Marston Montgomery.
Eliza had 9 brothers and sisters. Charlotte b1815 (married Edward Mellor); Maria b1817; Samuel b1821 (my Great Great Grandfather and married Rachel Wallis); Caroline b1823; Charles b1824; William b1829; Maria b1831 (married George Whiting); Simeon b1832 and Agnes b1833 (married Arthur Kirkland).
I don't know if you know about Frederick's brothers and sister, (apologies if you know already):
Frances b1837 (was a servant for Thomas Oliver in Bollington near Macclesfield in 1861); George b1839 and William b1843 (he married Caroline Beckwith in 1866 and died in 1891.
Hope this helps you along the way.
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franpow
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Thank you. This is all so amazing. I will research the places offered, and everyone concerned.
Can't thank you enough.
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franpow
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Thank you again for so much info regarding Eliza Ball & Edward Hollis. Do you by chance know what the parents of Edward were called? up to now, It has been suggested they maybe "Richard Hollis &Sarah Evans, married 1809.
Again, many thanks
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richsher
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Sorry I haven't replied earlier, life's been a bit hectic. I haven't been able to find where Edward was born. The 1841 census states he wasn't born in Staffordshire. (Eliza and Edward were living in Uttoxeter). I've checked the IGI but there seems a black hole around 1811, when I think Edward was born. However, there was a Richard Hollis and Sarah who had their children baptised at Sudbury - Anne 1812, Mary Anne 9/5/1814, Thomas 22/3/1818 and Henry 4/6/1820. I couldn't find any mention of Edward in the records for Doveridge and Somersal Herbert, which are neighbouring parishes.
Hope this may help,
richsher
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