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Piglet01
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Sorry, No further forward. An hr + spent on the IGI. Only found 'your' Margaret b.30 Mar 1814 + 6 siblings born to David Reid and Euphemia Hind or Hynd. (although the IGI lists 21, many are double entries etc)
Did a Search for a William Reed or Reid to a Euphemia -Spowart or Spouart and all its variants - Euphan, Eupham, Euphain, Eupheme, Effie - and even Eppy. No Margarets born to a William Reid (Reed) with a spouse called Euphemia (and its variants) Spowart/Spouart.
The only Eupham Spouart in the IGI (with a marriage 20 yrs +/- 1800), ch 17 Apr 1776 marries a John Berry on 09 Jan 1796.
How does this Margaret Reid tie into your tree? Do you have any BMD or census records for her.
Over to other lurkers.
Good luck. Regards, Steve
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McDonald originating in Aberlour. Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour). Crosbie and Willison. Roxburgh: Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson
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Piglet01
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Aargh.. just lost a long message. However - maybe some luck here.
From the IGI
Born to Margaret Reid and Henry Adamson - search 20 years +/- 1850 - (assumes Margaret is 16 in 1830).
1. David Adamson b. 13 Apr 1842. Dunfermline, Fife
2. Elizabeth Adamson b. 15 June 1844. Dunfermline, Fife
3. Henry Adamson. ch. 02 Jan 1853, North Church. Dunfermline, Fife
4. Campbell Anderson. b. 09 Apr 1855 and ch. 13 May 1855, Dunfermline, Fife
5. Marion Adamson. b. 07 Jul 1857. Dunfermline, Fife
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I note the gap between the 2nd and 3rd child. The luck is Campbell born in 1855. From Scotlands people:
"1855 birth records were very detailed and are a boon to the family historian. In addition to details about the child (date, place and time of birth, full name, sex), the parents' names (including maiden surname of mother), father's occupation, name of informant and relationship to child, an 1855 birth certificate also contains information on siblings, the ages and birthplaces of both parents, their usual residence and the date and place of their marriage. Such detail proved difficult to sustain and entries were modified from 1856. Information on siblings was removed, as were ages and birthplaces of parents and date and place of parents' marriage. In birth certificates since 1861 however, the date and place of the parents' marriage was reinstated.
So, if you get a copy of campbells cert it will help with a lot of info. What you obviously need to do or others is to follow this family via census entries - get a death window for Margaret. Her death entry will give her parents name - will tell if her husband pre deceased her and who the informant on the cert was - hopefully a known family member.
As an aside, on the IGI there is also a marriage entry on 04 March 1859, for a 19 year old William Adamson to an Allison Black (18)at Baldridgeburn, Dunfermline, Fife (his parents Henry Adamson and Margaret Reid. This is a 'submitted' entry
Fingers sore from typing so off for a cup of tea. Hope this has helped.
Regards, Steve :O)
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McDonald originating in Aberlour. Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour). Crosbie and Willison. Roxburgh: Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson
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davaar36
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I'm new to RootsChat and came across you request. I guess the information you were sent re Reid/Spowart was not accompanied by source data or you wouldn't be looking for it. If it didn't quote sources then it is suspicious. I can't help with your Margaret at the moment but I'm wondering if there is some "substance" in what you've been sent. What I mean is a Reid/Spowart marriage and some of the names involved. I can confirm that William Reid married Ann Spouart on 02 Apr 18 1831 Dunfermline (M100121). Among their 4 children they had a daughter Euphemia Reid born abt 1834 (from Census and Marriage data I don't have a birth record). Euphemia married her cousin, Thomas Spowart, in 1858 (GROS 424/02 0005). They sailed with 5 of their 8 children to Australia in 1879. This may be a red herring, and it doesn't throw any light on Margaret Reid, but it does bring together some of the names you've been given.
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Dod
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davaar36
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Margaret Reid, widow of Henry Adamson coal miner, died of "old age" 22 Mar 1898 aged 85 years at Baldridge Row, Dunfermline. Informant son Wiilam Adamson, 26 Baldridgeburn, Dunfermline. Parents given as William Reid and Euphemia Reid m.s. Spowart. Not unusual for there to be discrepancies in parents listed for somebody this old so the names may not be exact. However this may help a little in your search.
Dod
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joanlawrie
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Hi there
Ive a possible solution for all this mix up, Mgt Reid was born to David Reid and Euphan Hynd in March she was Christened on the 3 April 1814, witnesses were John and Robert Allan. They lived at Venturafair, near to Wellwood colliery.
Now David and Euphan had a son William born 1804, therefore there is a possiblity that something happened to the parents and William took on any kids.
It is also possible that Euphemia Spowart was living with with William and took his name only.
Like a lot of folk Ive trawled through Scotlands people for answers and got nothing on Euphemia.
If anyone has a better suggestion I would like to hear it cause this one is driving me bananas.
Joan
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davaar36
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William Reid, son of David Reid and Euphemia Hynd died at Wellwood Colliery 09 July 1857. Unfortunately his death certificate does not give his wife's name and no qualification nor relationship given for the informant Andrew Addison of Bowershall. From census data etc. I am pretty sure that William was the husband of Ann Spouart/Spowart, daughter of Thomas Spowart and Helen Beveridge.
Dod
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