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Surnames - SEARLES/HURLEY/SANDERS
« on: Tuesday 15 January 08 15:49 GMT (UK) »
Hello out there,

I am trying to put a small family tree together for a friend;  She is 84 now and was born in Barnstaple; 
I am looking for more information other than the 1861 census for an Edward Hurley from Ireland married to an Ellen;  (we can only find 1861)
I am searching for more info on Sanders; William Ernest born Wembworthy abt 1895ish;
Also Searles -  Charity she is in the 1881 and 1901 census with her family but we cannot find her birth family even though we believe we have found her birth;  anyone who can help please contact this site;  eise
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« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 January 08 22:07 GMT (UK) »
hi eise

I have been looking for your friends family ....

I see in 1861;
Edward Hurley (b 1831, Ireland ) and Ellen (age 29) are in Bristol , Glos with their children : Edward, 5; Mary 3; Jessy 10 months.

I have found this in 1871:
Convent, Orphanage
St James, Bristol
Dighton Street
Jessy Hurley 10 inmate b Bristol
Mary Hurley 14  inmate b Bristol
Ellen Hurley 7 inmate b Bristol

Cry Cry

If Ellen is their child as well then we should be looking for the parents deaths between 1864-1871

cannot see Edward yet ...he would be about 15 or 16 ...so maybe out working already ...

will follow up

deb
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Re: Surnames - SEARLES/HURLEY/SANDERS
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 January 08 22:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

This is Jessy Hurley's birth Registration. I think it may be worthwhile to purchase it in order to find out her mother's maiden name.

Jessy Hurley
Sept q 1860
Bristol, Glos
Vol 6a p 17

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Re: Surnames - SEARLES/HURLEY/SANDERS
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 January 08 23:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi

re Charity Searles; Is the Charity you found in 1881 and 1891 her married name ?

There is a Charity Searles born in Barnstaple , dec q 1854

In 1861:
Bear st , Barnstaple
William Searle (no 's' on end) head mar 50 labourer b swimbridge
Jane wife 41 b Barnstaple
William son 16 unm shoe maker b Barnstaple
Mary Ann dau 14 gen servant b        "
Sarah Jane dau 10 b barnstaple
CHARITY dau 7 b Barnstaple
John son 5 b        "
George Parkin lodger 21 shoe maker b Marwood

1871
Newport Rd, Bishops Tawton
Charity Searle is 17 , unm and a servant, born Barnstaple. She is working for a John Lock, a butcher and his family family.

I hope I have the right Charity.

Also re: William Ernest Sanders b 1895ish ...do you have any info on him ....father's name etc ?

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 January 08 23:15 GMT (UK) »
ahhhh Okay ... I have got it now ... LOL  Grin

Charity Searles married Edward Hurley in June q 1877 Barnstaple !
Edward b 1856 s/o William b Ireland and Ellen Hurley.

I will look for more on Charity's family ....

deb  Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 January 08 23:41 GMT (UK) »
Okay ... This is Charity's Family before she was born ...

1851:
Barnstaple
Gaydon street
Wm SEARLES head mar 39 ag lab b Bishops Tawton
Jane wife 29 b South Molton
Wm son 6 b       "
Mary A dau 4 b Barnstaple
George son 1 b "   ...he is not on the 1861 census ?
Elizabeth Taylor sister-in-law 17 house servant b South Molton
Phillip Hastnall? Lodger wid mason

at least in 1851 they have the "s" at the end of their surname  Cheesy

This is Charity's parent's marriage:

William SEARLES = Jane TAYLOR
Mar q 1843
Barnstaple
vol 10 pg 77

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will look at 1841 ...see if we find anything ....
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 January 08 00:05 GMT (UK) »
back again LOl

There is this IGI extracted info ..re William Searle(s) b c 1811 Bishops Tawton ...father of Charity b 1854 Barnstaple

WILLIAM SEARLE
chr: 11 NOV 1811   Bishops Tawton, Devon
parents ~ GEORGE SEARLE  and Charity   Cheesy

William named his daughter Charity and his son George ...

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 January 08 00:08 GMT (UK) »
Love this ...

Charity's grandparents marriage ...I think  Undecided

George Searle = Charity Woolacott
18 MAY 1806   Bishops Tawton
IGI extracted

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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 January 08 04:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

I notice that you said that you had Charity and her family in the 1881 and 1901 census ...
I have found them in 1891 under the name HUSLEY ... definitely Hurley on the original ....

In 1891 they are all living on Victoria street, Barnstaple
I checked the children they had against the children in 1881 and 1901 ...


There was also a child called Edith J Hurley aged 5, b 1886. (there is a birth reg for Edith Jane Hurley Mar 1887, Barnstaple).  Edith is not in the 1901 census with Charity and Edward ...

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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 09 February 08 12:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi there Deb,

I am sorry i have taken so long to reply but as i am atill quite new to roots chat i did not know you had replied as it hadnt shown on my messages.  Anyway I am now back and will go through my files plus talk to the lady who i am doing this for to get you what you what i have so far.  I will be back, what you ahve given me looks very intersting indeed thank you   eise Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 09 February 08 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Deb,

Right i have now taken a look at my file tree and here is some of what you have asked for. 
You have it right about Charity;s birth;  She was the grandmother of the friend I am doing this for.
Charity Searles b 1854 Barnstaple --d we believe -14 Nov 1926;
M -5 May 1877 to Edward Hurley -b abt 1855 Bristol.
Their youngest daughter was my friends mother - Evelyn Gladys Hurley b 1897 barnstaple. married Wiiliam Ernest sanders b 1894 Wembworthy Devon (this is the place he was born not the registered area still working on this)
My friend is their youngest daughter Edna Mabel Sanders. 
Eise

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 09 February 08 13:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Eise

Glad to see you  Smiley

Do you have the marriage cert of Evelyn Gladys Hurley and William Ernest Sanders... That would at least give us his father's name and occupation. It would be a place to start ...

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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 09 February 08 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Deb,

I donot have a marriage certificate but William was a shoemaker and carpenter i beleive will check that out later when i speak to Edna.  If email me on this address i will send you an invite to the small tree i am compliling on ancestry.com  It is still in its birth so htere will be mistakes.  i have aded a lot you have given me for searhc reasons and will be speaking to my contacts - Edna and her cousin stanley Hurley to see if they can give us anything alse to ass to your info.  eiseandtony@hotmail.co.uk
Hope this is a help
from the tree you can down load and copy and when i get the pictures i have been promised you can copy them also.  Eise
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 09 February 08 18:20 GMT (UK) »
Hello again deb,

Right I have now spoken to Edna.  She tells me her father William Ernest was a cabinet maker and his father William was a shoemaker.  She is interested to know where you come into this family. and if you are related to her or her mothers side;  As you know Edna's mother was a Hurley the youngest of Charity and Edward;  They had a large family;  I am also in touch with Stanley Hurley who is Edna's cousin, his sister Barbara is also still alive and still living in Barnstaple;  Stanley lives in Dawlish which is on the Devon coast.  Not too far from Barnstaple;
Stanley as I said is Edna's cousin his father James Daley Hurley was Edna's mother, Evelyn's older brother;
James was born 2 Feb 1883;  He married Mary Elizabeth Hammett and went to live in swimbridge devon where he died. Jan 1947;
James was in WW1 apparently and while there was badly gassed which affected his health for the rest of his life.
William John Searles was born before charity and Edward were married so wasnt Edwards son but he was brought up with the family. He is the eldest of the siblings.  He was in the Royal Navy also. Petty Officer first class and in 1901 he was at the Port of Valletta Malta;  His eldest son Frederick also joined the Royal Navy and there is a photo of him on my ancestry tree. 
You ar welcome to view but i will havbe to have an email adress to give you an invite as i said.
Also William John searles married Margaret German in Chelsea 1916.
Eise
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 09 February 08 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Eise

I am not related to your friends family ... i just like to search for missing relatives and help others do the same . I am very interested in the Devon and Cornwall boards as I was born in Devon but most of my ancestors were from Cornwall.

My great grandfather was also a chief petty officer in the RN and came from Tavistock ...

I would love to help you and your friend fill in the gaps ... having a tree would definitely make it easier for me to search ....

So if I can help in anyway with any tidbits for your friend , I would be happy to

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