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Received the marriage certificate for John Goodwin and Frances Woodroffe dated 27 July 1788. It turns out that he was born in Kempston. I looked on the IGI and came up with a birth of John Goodwin born 17 November 1765 parents Nathan Goodwin and Anne. How can I make sure this is the same one. The year is correct, and how do I find Nathan and Anne. I have looked for their marriage but so far have drawn a blank. Any ideas?
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Why is it that the parish of residence is often shown on other folks' entries but rarely on mine?!! Careful though! The marriage entry shows he was of the parish of Kempston, which doesn't necessarily mean he was born there (but in this case he probably was!).
Who were the witnesses at the marriage? Do they provide any clues? Siblings perhaps.
There's a burial in Willington on 14 Apr 1830 of John Goodden age 64, which is spot on for a baptism on 17 Nov 1765. Checking the IGI, which for Beds baptisms pre 1812 is almost 100% extracted, there's no other John Goodwin which would fit, so I think you're pretty safe in assuming that he was the son of Nathan and Ann.
If you wanted to do a belt and braces job you could check Kempston transcript to see who the John Gooding was who was buried there on 3 May 1784, to make sure he wasn't son of Nathan, and while you're at it look to see if the banns were entered in the register (there's an IGI member submission of a marriage at Kempston on 6 Apr 1788 between John Gooding and Frances Woodriffe, and I wonder if this actually relates to the banns - although they are only valid for 3 months)
For Nathan and Ann's marriage check the IGI under GOODIN, rather than GOODING or GOODWIN
David
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Thanks David
Will check all this out and get back to you. As a matter of interest where do you find burials for bedfordshire?
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Found a marriage on IGI for Nathan Goodin and Ann Line 26th December 1763 at Kempston Bedford. Do you think this is the one and why has the name changed? If we go on like this I will be related to Harold Godwinson and you will have to call me ma'am.
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Have also found Ann Lines christening but it only says about 1742 in Kempston. It is the right one as it says she was married to Nathan Goodin
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No, I'd call you cousin! Harold's last wife Ealdgyth of Mercia was my 30xg grandmother, but they didn't have children. I descend from a previous marriage of Ealdgyth.
That was the one I found, and JohnP as well, and I'm quite sure it is the couple who were the parents of John baptised 1765. Names were spelt however the scribe thought the name was spelt, depending on what he heard or thought he'd heard! Goodwin, Goodin, Gooding, Gooden and numerous other variations depending on how yokel the Bedfordshire accent was!
I find burials on the NBI CDrom set, which is particularly good for Beds with coverage pretty complete up to 1850, available from the FFHS, who also have the same data online pay perview at http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/
The Ann Lines baptism about 1742 you can ignore - it's a member submission and any member submission which says "about...." means the member hadn't got a clue when or where the event took place. But the good news is that there's an extracted entry on 3 Jan 1742 at Kempston.
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How on earth did you get that far back and how can you possibly get any further. How exciting. It makes me feel as if Im sinking in mud.
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No, I'd call you cousin! Harold's last wife Ealdgyth of Mercia was my 30xg grandmother, but they didn't have children. I descend from a previous marriage of Ealdgyth.
whats all that about David ? is that another line - as well as your claim that you have links to William the Conquerer & the Emporer Charlemange ! -
Maisie - I will check out the Kempston PR at the library at the weekend so see if there are any other details.
Regards John
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Thanks John I would be very grateful. It gives us mere mortals something to do.
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From the Kempston PR
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Marriage 26 Dec 1763 Nathan Goodin to Ann Line - no more details
Baptism 03 Jan 1742 Ann, daughter of Thomas Line
+ 25 Sep 1743 Charity, daughter of Thomas & Eliz Line
Baptisms of children of Nathan & Ann various spellings
15 Oct 1764 William Goodin - burial 17 Oct 1764 infant
17 Nov 1765 John Goodwin - burial 07 Apr 1774 inf, son of Nathan & Ann Godwin
23 Oct 1768 Elizabeth Godwin
04 Mar 1770 Catherine Goodwin - burial 22 Jan 1771 Kate, daughter of Nathan & Cath ? Goodwin
23 Feb 1772 Ebenezer Goodin
21 Mar 1773 Thomas Godwin
Other marriages
05 Nov 1764 James Purton to Eliz Goodin
16 Oct 1785 William Lovelidge (Biddenham) widower to Ann Goodwin, widow
Other Burials
03 May 1784 John Gooding (no further details)
18 May 1787 William Gooding , Pauper
26 Apr 1803 Nathan Goodwin, dairyman
So seems like the John Goodwin b 1765 is not yours as he was buried 1774.
I thought that the Ann Goodwin, widow who married Wm Lovelidge was the wife of Nathan, but he died afterwards. Was she the wife of John who died 1784 ?
more soon... John
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That 1774 burial is a bit odd.
"infant" usually refers to a baby, not an 8 year old
But I am struggling to come up with an explanation
David
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Thanks all
That is a lot of information to get my head round but Iam very grateful. I will have to sit down and work it out. That death is a bit strange I must admit
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