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maisiemiller
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James PILE
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Has anyone any information about james pile born 1796 in combmartin devon married to elizabeth 1796 kentisbury. I think james mother was jane pile born in 1760 in devon. Any info about james parents or the maiden name of his wife elizabeth would be very welcome.
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HI Maisie
Is it your James ( a farmer) and Elizabeth Pile , living in Linton in 1841? There is an older woman Miriam Pile (84) living with them.
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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I see the same family in 1851 ...James is born Combe Martin.
There is also these online document which may be your James and the Pile family ...
Information relating to document ref. no. 2309 B/W186 James Pile of Lynton, yeoman Date: 1860
North Devon Record Office: Combe Martin Deeds, Etc B298 Assignments and conveyances plus legacies and probate of the Pile family. Date range: 1774 - 1980.
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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Hi Deb On the 1841 census I found he was misspelt as Pelo but he was a farmer living in Linton with an elderly mother called Jane 81. All the children seem to fit as I am interested in Mary Pile who is my great great grandmother What do you think?
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Deb the 1851 census you found if my James Pile. What do the documents found contain and how can I get a look. If they are in Devon I will have a 300 mile journey
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Hi Maisie
I think the documents may be wills . You can orcer them online from the National Archives UK. not sure how much they are ...but it may gives names of other family members.
In 1841 ..on the original the elder lady is MIRIAM she is 84 and an Independent. The Jane you are refering to Is Their Daughter Jane ..who is 8 ...she has a slash next to her age ... I think this was used when Counting or transcribing.
this is what appears on 1841 - the original
East Lyn James PILE 45 Farmer Elizb Pile 45 Mary " 14 David " 12 John " 10 JANE " 8 George " 6 James " 4 MIRIAM PILE 84 ind
I wonder if James' dad was named David ..as that is his eldest son's name ...
will look for more
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Thanks Deb At least I have got his mother out of it which helps a lot Jean
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Lets hope it's his mum, could be his gran , as there is no relationships given in the 1841 census . Her death cert may reveal some clue ... I will look around for some siblings for him.
Maybe if we follow them further we may find a clue in the children's names ...
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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Deb just as a matter of interest how do you go about finding siblings for him?
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Maisy ...
Sometimes I just look in the same area and find people with the same Surname ... especially those that have the same occupation .... Then I work from there to find their baptisms etc ....gotta keep trying to find a connection .... 
Hopefully we can find a Mr Pile marrying a Miriam/Marian at the right time in the right place ...
Another thing to do , is to order some birth certs of James Pile and Elizabeth ..in order to find her maiden name
Fortunately, James , the youngest son was b c 1838 ...so we could find his birth reg.
there is this birth reg: James Pile dec q 1837 Kingsbridge Devon vol 9 pg 280
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Re: James PILE
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 17 January 08 20:40 GMT (UK) » |
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Here is Miriam Pile's death reg....
Mirriam Pile Sept q 1846 Barnstaple vol 10 pg 23
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Re: James PILE
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 January 08 20:45 GMT (UK) » |
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Found Miriams death myself hurray but I will send for James Piles birth certificate. I will let you know what info, but dont hold your breath as it takes a while
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This is weird I found a connection to the Pile family today and for some reason thought I'd check Devon entries and here you are a Pile thread  What I have Elizabeth PILE married William KELLY in Northam they had 6 children between 1843 and 1853 two being given the second name Pile William remarried in 1856 so she must have died about 1853 as I say its early in my research let me know if any of this rings a bell By the way William is from a family of publicans Trees
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Hi Trees ... 
I wonder if your Elizabeth Pile is related to James Pile , the farmer ...
When was she born ? Is Northam far from Lynton?
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Hello Trees I havent got this particular Elizabeth in my tree. The age doesnt fit . Thanks. Although she could be some sort of relative. Maisie
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