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Herbert Watkins - 1891 and 1901 help please
« on: Friday 18 January 08 11:35 GMT (UK) »

Hi there,
My great grandfather was a man named Jack Harry Watkins.
I have recently discovered Jack may have had a brother named Herbert Watkins who was born about 1881
Herbert does'nt seem to be listed with his parents  in the 1881 or 1901 census, so this is just a quick note wondering if anyone with a "fresh pair of eyes"  Smiley Smiley Smiley can find him in the 1891 or 1901 census  ??
I believe he may have been born around the  Stanton Lacy area ??
Any help much appreciated
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Re: Herbert Watkins - 1891 and 1901 help please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 January 08 11:40 GMT (UK) »

Hi Alveleyhistorian,

There's a Herbert Watkins age 9 born Stanton Lacey on the 1891 census for Chetton but he's with his parents Richard and Mary A  Undecided

Oh wait! There's a Jack H age 6 months in the same family!  Does this mean you don't have your Jack in 1891? Will post details!  Smiley
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Re: Herbert Watkins - 1891 and 1901 help please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 January 08 11:44 GMT (UK) »

Hi Alveleyhistorian,

There's a Herbert Watkins age 9 born Stanton Lacey on the 1891 census for Chetton but he's with his parents Richard and Mary A  Undecided

Hi there,
Lovely to hear from you - Happy new Year Tati !
His parents are Richard Watkins born Ludlow 1849 and
Mary Ann Watkins (maiden name Squires) born 1855 Leicestershire.
Any help much appreciated  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Re: Herbert Watkins - 1891 and 1901 help please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 January 08 11:47 GMT (UK) »

Took some time to reach my brain Grin 
1891
RG12/2093 95 8
Chetton, Shropshire
Eadon Burnell
3 rooms occupied

Richard Watkins, head, 43, Cowman?, b. Ludlow
Mary A, wife, 54, b. Leicester Quorndon?
George, son, 12, scholar, b. Stanton Lacy
Herbert, son, 9, scholar, b. do.
Thomas, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
Margaret, dau, 6, scholar, b. Worcester Coreley?
Jack H, son, 6 mo, b. Chetton

Happy 2008 to you as well!  Cheesy
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Re: Herbert Watkins - 1891 and 1901 help please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 January 08 11:54 GMT (UK) »

Hi

1901 Census

juatt Bank Shropshire Alvesley

Richard Watkins Head M 52 Shepard b Ludlow
Mary A Watkins Wife 47                     b Leics
Thomas Watkins Son 17                     b Shropshire
Jack H Watkins Son 9                          b Shropshire
Esther Watkins Dau 6                          b Shropshire Stafford

No Herbert at Address

Hope this helps in some way

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Re: Herbert Watkins - 1891 and 1901 help please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 January 08 11:59 GMT (UK) »

Took some time to reach my brain Grin 
1891
RG12/2093 95 8
Chetton, Shropshire
(can't read address)
3 rooms occupied

Richard Watkins, head, 43, Cowman?, b. Ludlow
Mary A, wife, 54, b. Leicester Quorndon?
George, son, 12, scholar, b. Stanton Lacy
Herbert, son, 9, scholar, b. do.
Thomas, son, 7, scholar, b. do.
Margaret, dau, 6, scholar, b. Worcester Coreley?
Jack H, son, 6 mo, b. Chetton

Happy 2008 to you as well!  Cheesy


Wonderful !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Life is so ironic, other peoples family trees, seem so straight forward, then when I get to grips with mine, I always find problems  Huh There were two other sons Frederick born 1877 and Richard John 1875- I wonder where they moved on to ?? (Richard appears in Alveley by 1900)
Many thanks  Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Re: Herbert Watkins - 1891 and 1901 help please
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 January 08 12:05 GMT (UK) »

1901 RG13/2515 folio 18 page 3 Cleobury Mortimer Shropshire


Hollywaste
Jane Dingle age 76 widow born Coalbrook Devon living on own means
George Watkins age 23 Boarder Bridgnorth Shropshire  Navvy
Albert Watkins age 20 Boarder Bridgnorth Navvy he could be herbert


The Reg district for Chetton is Bridgnorth


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Re: Herbert Watkins - 1891 and 1901 help please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 January 08 12:11 GMT (UK) »

1901 RG13/2515 folio 18 page 3 Cleobury Mortimer Shropshire


Hollywaste
Jane Dingle age 76 widow born Coalbrook Devon living on own means
George Watkins age 23 Boarder Bridgnorth Shropshire  Navvy
Albert Watkins age 20 Boarder Bridgnorth Navvy he could be herbert


The Reg district for Chetton is Bridgnorth


Pam

Hi Pam, that's brilliant, Many thanks
You're right  Bridgnorth dialect could easily alter Herbert to Albert  ( I can hear it now  Grin Grin Grin)
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