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Topic: The Tholander /De La Tholandes family from Sweden (Read 739 times)
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Lotta Karlsson
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Hi! I am searching for the decendents of the Tholander family. They changed their name to De La Tholandes probably. The husband, Elieser Tholander, was born in Sweden 1827. He was a provision merchant and ships chandler. He lived in the house "Villa de Portugal" in Snakes Lane 46?, Woodford, Essex. His wife, Maria, born in Portugal 1839. Their daughter, Maria, born in Woodford 1876 and their son, Elieser/Eliser, born 1878 in Leyton, Essex. I know that Elieser and Maria lived in "Villa de Portugal 1868-1871. My grandmothers grandmother was at this time a servant in this house. After that, she went back to Sweden again. I really want to find decendants to this family but I do think I need some help!
Best wishes
Lotta Karlsson, Sweden
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Emsworthy
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1881:
Villa de Portugal, Snakes Lane
Eliasar Tholander, Head, 54, Provision Merchant, Swedish Brit. Subject
Maria da l Tholander, Wife, 42, Portugal
Maria da l Tholander, Daughter, 5, Essex Woodford
Eliser Tholander, Son, 3, Essex Leyton
Hedvig Hanson, Servant, 23, Domestic Servant, Sweden
Anna Spangbert, Servant, 20, Domestic Servant, Sweden
Regards, Emma 
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~Census Transcriptions, Crown Copyright, National Archives~ All Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukWarner (Essex) Edgley (Suffolk) Blake & Sparrowhawk (Lambeth) Hall & Gibson (Co. Durham) Brown (Yorkshire) |
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1891:
Villa de Portugal, Snakes Lane
Elieser Tholander, Head, 64, Ship Chand???, Sweden Naturalised British Subject
Maria Tholander, Wife, 50, Portugal
Maria P Tholander, Daughter, 15, Essex Woodford
Thomas B? E Tholander, Son, 13, Essex Woodford
Uiristin Olsson, Servant, 26, Sweden
Regards, Emma
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1901:
Villa de Portugal, Snakes Lane
Eliesar Tholander, Head, 75, Provision Merchant, Sweden (British Subject)
Cissie Tholander, Daughter, 25, Essex Woodford
George Plense, Visitor, 28, Shipping Clerk, Denmark (Danish Subject)
Alice Austin, Servant, 18, Domestic Servant, Kent Maidstone
I can only imagine Cissie is Maria. Eliesar is listed as being married so maybe Maria (Wife) was out of the country?
I don't know how common the name Tholander is but there was also
Oscar Tholander, Master, 56, Married, Gothenberg Sweden (British Subject)
He was on SS Cameo and was in Grimsby Lincolnshire.
Regards, Emma
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1871
Portugal, Snake Lane
Elieser Tholander, Head, 44, Provision Merchant & Ship Chandler??, Sweden Brit. Subject
Maria E Thorlander, Wife, 32, Portugal
Augusta Ohlin, Servant, 22, General Domestic, Sweden
Regards, Emma
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Lotta Karlsson
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Thank you Emma for your help!
It is very useful information! Augusta Ohlin was my grandmothers grandmother. And the Tholander family had several servants from Sweden.
About Oscar Tholander, what is SS Cameo?
And is it possibly for me to have a look in later census to see if I can trace the son and daughter?
Regards,
Lotta
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Hi Lotta,
This is the information from the Births, Death & Marriage index. As you can see it is for Thomas B E Tholander (Formerly Eliser!) and it shows when he was married. Unfortunately there are three men and two women on the page so there is a woman's name missing...Dorothea Darton or Eliza Neat could have been his wife, or typically(probably!!) it would have been the missing woman!
Name Year Quarter District County Volume Page
Carpenter, Alfred Joseph 1902 December West Ham Essex Greater London 4a 537
Darton, Dorothea Ellen E 1902 December West Ham Essex Greater London 4a 537
Neat, Eliza 1902 December West Ham Essex Greater London 4a 537
Phillips, Frank 1902 December West Ham Essex Greater London 4a 537
Tholander, Thomas B E 1902 December West Ham Essex Greater London 4a 537
The next census release for the 1911 census is not until 2011 so you have a bit of a wait!! You could order a certificate of the marriage as you have the volume(4a) and page(537) number and the name of one of the couple.
Go to http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/marriages/obtainingmarriagecertificates/
and you will find all the information there.
Hope this helps!!
Regards, Emma
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 CAMEO 1876
The CAMEO was a 1,272 gross ton ship, length 245ft x beam 31ft, one funnel, three masts, iron hull. Accommodation for 43-1st, 14-2nd and 413-3rd class passengers. Built 1876 by Earle's Shipbuilding Co, Hull (Yard No.208) for Thos. Wilson, Sons & Co., Hull, she was used on the Scandinavia to Grimsby / Hull services. 1896 re-engined. 1908 scrapped at Preston.
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Lotta Karlsson
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Thanks again!
???I tryed to order the certificate of the marriage but I had to write the exactly date for it. December 1902 was not enough. Or maybe I have missunderstood?
Regards,
Lotta
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Lotta Karlsson
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Thanks!!! The pictures have arrived! I could see Oscar Tholanders name, but I had problems in reading the text after the word Sweden. Maybe it could be important. Have you any idea what it says?
Regards,
Lotta
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Lotta Karlsson
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Emma,
Thank you for your excellent explanations and all your help!
Regards,
Lotta
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fleamac
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Hi Lotta,
Just to let you know that I have some interesting papers that relate to Elieser Tholander. They are legal documents regarding a 400 pound loan from a Mrs Sarah Anne Barber against Villa de Portugal and the repayment of the loan. The loan was taken out on the 14th June 1865 and paid back on the 17th June 1874. These documents are in a metal document case with the name E THOLANDER above a pair of crossed flags. I hope this helps put a bit more info towards your search.
Regards from sunny Australia
Roger
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