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Kevvo7132
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #105 on: Sunday 18 October 09 11:10 UTC (UK) »

Hi Siobhan,

I had a closer look at the pictures you posted, and although I don't recognise the actual Jewel I think it may well have been awarded to him for Services to the lodge, or possibly as a personal gift from another brother.

I'm not familiar with the history of lodges in the east end, but may be able to check with older brothers, though I doubt I will have much luck given the fact that this is over a century ago!
Be prepared for a bit more of a wait, and also, is it possible to get a clearer pic of the inscription on the reverse, this may allow me to work out the other name Smiley

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Kevin
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #106 on: Sunday 18 October 09 11:17 UTC (UK) »

Many thanks for your reply, Kevin.

I haven't come across any mention of a lodge in the Poplar area, either, so far... but I'll keep my fingers crossed that some info will turn up!

I'll try and get hold of a clearer image... unfortunately the jewel is currently in a nursing home in Ireland (!), so isn't easily accessible.  Maybe some more work on Photoshop will throw up some more detail... I'll have a go!

Well, even if I never manage to find out any more about my great-grandad's involvement, at least it has been very interesting reading all the information about the RAOB, of which I previously knew nothing.

Thanks again.

Best wishes
Siobhan
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #107 on: Sunday 18 October 09 17:57 UTC (UK) »

My Dad, John Kenneth Wagstaff was a member of the Elm Tree Lodge , they me t at the Cocked Hat  pub in Broxtowe , Nottingham .I  have  photo of him in his regalia also christmas 1959 buffs children's party with me and my sisters and brother . Every year they held a party for members children and through the year took us all on trips to skeggy or the zoo .I wonder if there are more photographs in the lodges archives that are available.
            Marie
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #108 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 18:48 UTC (UK) »

I am looking to trace back information about my grandfathers involvement in the RAOB. His name was Brother Herbert G. Ward and would have spent time in lodge 2319 from 1966 onwards.  Much of his involvement was based in Derby, East Midlands. I have various medals for services and if anyone can shed some light on any background history or information, that would be much appreciated.

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Mike
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #109 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 21:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mike,

If you can post pics of the jewels I'll do my best to identify and give you the background for why he would have recieved them.

It would also be useful for tracing his buffalo career as they would normally have dates and lodge names inscribed.

Regards
Kevin
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #110 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 22:14 UTC (UK) »

I've been trying to identify the medals in this photo of my Great-Great Grandfather  John "Jack" Hainsworth (1846-1912).  The one in the centre looks very similar to your cross.

I don't really have anything else other than this photo.  I know he was a weaver in North Brierly, Yorkshire from the censuses.

Do you happen to recognise the other two medals?

I really do appreciate any insight you can offer, as I'm a bit lost as to where I can start researching this.

Can I post this again just in case anyone has any suggestions?

My local RAOB lodge thinks the middle jewel means he was a knight.  They don't think the lodge he attended exists anymore, so I'm not sure where to look now.

Do the other jewels look familiar to anyone?

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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #111 on: Tuesday 27 October 09 14:10 UTC (UK) »

Please find a photograph of my Granddads certificate, I was informed my Granddad used to go to the Grove Public House on Canal Street Nottingham for his meetings.

Hopefull Geoff



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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #112 on: Sunday 01 November 09 17:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi if anyone on here would like any info on the buffaloes just post on here and I will see what I can get for you (prob not a lot) but could lead you in the right direction .
What I do have are records of where lodge met the Lodge name and number,
so if you find some old jewels or papers from your family just ask.
I am a member of the order and try to record items of intrest for the future
Den
or my title
Bro Den Whittenbury R O H.
PS if I dont reply within a couple of days PM me Wink
I'm new to this site so I hope you will bear with me. I have posted a message on Page 8 at the bottom Charles Darney, If you could read it and let me know if you can help. Thanks Geoff Hall
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #113 on: Sunday 29 November 09 20:19 UTC (UK) »

Hello
I have always suspected that my grandfather  John Mason b 1889 Derbyshire d 1944 Doncaster was a member of the RAOB.He wore a badge on his jacket but for all I know he may have nicked it since much I know about him is not true
I believe he may have attended a branch at Penistone Yorkshire which may tie in with The Spread Eagle pub which was run by my ancestors The Singletons in the 1900's.Might he have been recruited during WW1
How can I check.Does a secret sociaty publish a list of its past dead members Huh?
Thanks
Paul
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #114 on: Sunday 29 November 09 22:20 UTC (UK) »

My maternal great-grandfather Wilfred Donkersley was a member of the RAOB, Hand o'Friendship Lodge, Stocksbridge, WRY.  My paternal grandad Jack Pearson was a member of a (different) local lodge that met in another local pub in the village, the Castle Inn.  You will find that a lot of these RAOB groups met in pubs.  In fact my father tells me that their other name was - apologies - the Rat Arsed Old Buggers.  Or, more politely, the Boozy Buffs.  But I think this discredits the very good work that they did.
Somewhere I have a photo of the Sheffield RAOB HQ decorated for a Royal Visit.  I have his jewels and some lovely photos of regalia sent to me by another researcher if anyone wants me to post them.
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #115 on: Sunday 29 November 09 22:43 UTC (UK) »

Hi Claire,

Believe it or not to some of our wives/girlfriends, we're STILL known as the Boozy Buffs!
Would love to see the pics you have, might even be able to identify them for others who may have similar and wonder what they are Smiley

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Kevin
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #116 on: Sunday 29 November 09 22:47 UTC (UK) »

OK, I will sort all the photos out tomorrow and post them - been on the homebrew tonight, which must make boozing part of the family!  My ancestors were also maltsters and brewers as well as boozers, so I am at the mercy of my genes!
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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #117 on: Monday 30 November 09 20:41 UTC (UK) »

This is one of the jewels:
W. Donkersley C.P.
1st Degree 21 April 1915
2nd Degree 18 August 1916
Royal Antediluvian Order of Buffaloes
nemo mortalium omnibus horis sapit
[no man is wise for all his life/no man is at all times wise - I think]

Reverse: K.O.M. 1919
This order of Merit and Honor [sic] of Knighthood was conferred on W. Donkersley C.P. by the members of the Hand o’Friendship Lodge no. 649 in recognition of his services in the cause of Buffaloism and their esteem & regard for him as a man.  9 July 1919.



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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #118 on: Monday 30 November 09 21:09 UTC (UK) »

This one says:
Hand of Friendship Lge 649
R.A.O.B. Justice, Truth, Philanthropy [their general motto]
Reverse: Presented to Primo Wilfred Donkersley Sept 27 1916

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Re: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes
« Reply #119 on: Monday 30 November 09 21:12 UTC (UK) »

Harrogate Convention G.L.E. Delegate 1919
Reverse: W. Donkersley K.O.M.



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