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Topic: R.A.O.B. or Buffaloes (Read 8234 times)
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Melidon
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My grandfather William Henry Bolton Wroe, was a Buff. I did have a wonderful photo of him in his regalia. Sadly, due to a fire at the family home a lot of items were lost. I know he lived in the Ardwick district of Manchester, Gomm Steet to be precise, he died in 1930 aged 86. If there is any information regarding a possible lodge in that area at that time, I would appreciate it.
Many thanks
Melidon
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corvetteangel
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It appears that my great grandfather may have been a member of the order of the Buffaloes. His name is Thomas Pointon and lived in Brown Edge, Staffordshire. Any info would be appriciated.
Thanks, Charlotte
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corvetteangel
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No,sorry ,I've no idea which one he belonged to
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Jacquidz
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Hi Den
I wonder if you could help me? A few weeks ago I emailed someone in the R.A.O.B, but have not had a reply yet. I know my grandfather, Ernest Praid (born 29/4/1888) was in the R.A.O.B, but would like to try and find out more. I have no idea which lodge he was with and what his title was. He was born in London but left home at 10, living in Wales (1911 census) then moving on to Shropshire (was in WW1), Yorkshire and then Kent. If you need any more info, I can elaborate. In the photo I am attaching, he is sitting 2nd from the left with CH on his "apron". He actually took this photograph with the aid of a timer. I have no idea what year this was taken. Any help would be much appreciated.
Kind regards
Jacqui
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Hilton, Coxall, Slater, Bebb, Praid/Praed, Bowers
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sjn
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Hello
I have recently discovered that my great-grandfather was a member of the RAOB, and I have now been sent the attached photographs of a medal/jewel (sorry, I don't know the distinction!) which is in the possession of my mother's cousin.
I have been reading about the RAOB, and its history, and have been looking for similar items on sites like e-bay, but I have not yet had any luck finding out more about this particular medal/jewel, or about the likely background to my great-grandfather's membership.
I cannot make out the entire inscription on the reverse, other than "presented by.... to Bro. William Jones, Dec 18, 1895". My great-grandfather was born in 1863, and went to work in the shipyard in Millwall (Isle of Dogs/Poplar) in the mid-1880s, working there until his death in 1900. (Incidentally, William Jones was the name by which he was known at the time, although it was not his real name!) He lived in Millwall, but I don't know where the nearest lodge would have been. I'm thinking somewhere in Poplar... does anyone know if there was one there?
Any help, hints, etc, would be gratefully received.
Many thanks,
Siobhan
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oban
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Hello
I wonder if anyne can help me with this picture. My gt grandfather is seated second from left on the front row.
I am not sure when this photo was taken, or where. He lived in Kent (Canterbury and Sheppey) before moving to Southampton, Hampshire.
There seems to be a picture of a buffalo on the aprons; I am curious to discover what the varying initials represent on the 'banners' around their necks.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you
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Kevvo7132
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Wonderful Pic!
I can certainly explain the collars of office for you.
Your GGF was CW (City Waiter) for the month and as such would see that all members had refreshments available.
On his right is the City Secretary, responsible for the lodge's administration.
on his left is the Sitting Primo, who would have been in the chair of the lodge for the month.
next is the City Marshal, who would assist the SP in his duties.
then we have the City Tyler, would would allow entrance to latecomers after checking credentials.
Second left in the second row is the City Registrar, responsible for collecting regidtration fees and seeing that the members sign in.
next to him is the City Chamberlain, who would see that all members are properly attired and would act as a kind of Maitre'D within the lodge.
two along from him is the City Treasurer, who, as the name suggests, would be in charge of lodge finances.
Standing beside him is the City Minstrel, who would lead the lodge in singing the toast to absent brethren and the National Anthem.
the two officers in the back row are the City Constable, responsible for collecting ant fines imposed by the Sitting Primo, and the Alderman of Benevolence, responsible for recommending any payment to a brother in need. The AB would traditionally be the previous month's Sitting Primo.
Hope this helps, and if you have any other questions I'll do my best to answer them for you.
Kevin
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oban
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Crikey - that info is brilliant.
So is this a Buffalo Lodge? Is there any way I could find out which Lodge this was? That way I would be able to pinpoint when the picture was taken.
How would the system work, if he moved from one part of the country to another, would he automatically be accepted into another Lodge?
From your post it sounds like they only held posts for a month, were/are there people who held posts longer and would these posts be voted on by other members or were they taken in turn?
Sorry so many questions, but this is all very new to me.
Thank you.
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Kevvo7132
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Hi oban
Yes it is most definitely a Buffalo lodge, and the only way to find out which one this might be would be if you could get hold of any jewels he may have been presented, and check any inscriptions on them.
If a buff moves around the country, they can go to any buff lodge and would be welcomed, even if just for single visit. If he relocated permanently he could transfer to a lodge in his new area and any voting standing he may have had in his previous lodge could also be transferred.
Most of the offices are held on a monthly basis, voted by the brothers, except for the trustees, secretary and treasurer. Those particular offices are called "will and pleasure" offices and the same brother can hold them for as long as the other brothers of the lodge are happy for them to do so.
Kevin
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sjn
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Hello
I'm still trying to find out something about my great-grandad's involvement in the Buffaloes (in the Poplar area of London, I am assuming), and am still making no headway.
If anyone recognises the type of medal/ribbon in the photos I posted (just a few messages back), and can shed light on 'where' etc, I would be very, very thrilled.
Many thanks,
Siobhan
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