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Hi
I am interested in the family of Charles Spall (b c1797 in Debenahm, Suffolk) and Ann Faires (I think that is correct) b c1797 in Hadleigh, Suffolk. I know they married in St. Matthew's Church, Ipswich on 23rd April 1821. If anyone is able to look up this marriage at the Suffolk Records Office I would be grateful. I would like to know who their two witnesses were (if readable?). I also know they had the following children:-
Ann b1821
Harriet b c1823
Rebecca bapt at St. Matthew's on 27/08/1826
Eliza Ann bapt at St. Matthew's on 15/03/1829
Emma bapt (presumably at St. Matthew's) on 10/02/1839
I would love to know if there were more siblings between 1829-39.
If no-one can visit does anyone know if the Suffolk Records Office can provide copies of records for a charge?
Many thanks.
dawlc
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Hi dawlc!
I have had a look at Ipswich St Matthew parish register, and found the following.
First the marriage you refer to of Charles and Ann in 1821.
Charles Spall bachelor
m. Ann Faiers spinster (FAIERS is spelt like this throughout the registers)
23.4.1821 (as you said)
Both OTP
Both signed their names
Witnesses: Rebecca Faiers and (looks like) D S _____ford (something ending in ford).
I then tried to look for the baptisms at Ipswich St Matthew. I couldn't find one for Ann I'm afraid, even checking to see if she had been born to Ann Faiers before the marriage. But could not find it at all.
The following I could see:
Harriet d/o Charles Sporle and Ann his wife (late Ann Faiers) bn 3rd October 1824, privately baptised 21st Oct 1824, received into church 16th May 1827. Charles listed as a servant.
Rebecca, bn 30 May 1826, privately baptised 27th Aug 1826, received into church 16th May 1827. Charles listed as a mariner?
Eliza, bn 26 Oct 1828, baptised 15th March 1829, Charles listed as an innkeeper.
Could not see Emma's baptism or any other siblings at St Matthew at all.
Kind regards
Anne
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annes
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I also looked at the transcript of the Debenham parish register to see if I could find the baptism of Charles Spall.
Charles, bastard son of Charles Sporle and Harriot Gooderam
baptised 18th October 1800
Charles, son of Charles and Harriot Sporle, 5th May 1802
John, 1st June 1803
Charlotte, 24th October 1804
Lionel, 27th January 1806 (bn 1.12.1805)
Jonathan, 15th May 1815 (bn 19.10.1809)
Rachel, 15th May 1815 (bn 23.4.1811)
George, 15th May 1815
Harriot, 15th May 1815 (bn 17th March 1815)
Susan, 23rd May 1820 (bn 16.8.1816)
Edward, 23rd May 1820 (bn 14.2.1820)
Charles Sporle listed as a blacksmith.
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Anne
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Sorry, just spotted this amongst my notes as well -
Ann d/o William and Ann Faiers
baptised 31st March 1797 at Hadleigh.
Anne
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Hi Anne
Many thanks for all your tracing. I should have made it clear that I knew their first child (Ann) was born in Hadleigh (sorry) so your tracing of her baptism in Hadleigh fits perfectly. Thank you for finding Harriet's dob & baptism. The last daughter (Emma) I just guessed was baptised at St. Matthew's but I think the record I found just said in the Ipswich area.
Thank you also for the info re Charles & Ann's witnesses. Rebecca was obviously Ann's sister. As to Charles' baptism in Debenham. I presume the first baby Charles died as Charles and Harriot have another 'Charles' in 1802. I am not too sure of Charles' year of birth and will probably order his Death Cert to see what age is mentioned there - he died in 1861.
As to Charles' various occupations! I know on his daughter Eliza's (she was my paternal Gt. Gt. Grandmother) Marriage Cert he gives his occupation as coachman so 'servant' fits. It is interesting to see the spelling of Spall as 'Sporle' probably accounts for why I couldn't find him on the 1841 & 61 Censues as Spall. I will now look for Sporle. I have heard of the name Harriot Gooderam before - so can now follow that lead too.
It is so helpful and exciting when you receive a reply like yours to a post. Thanks again.
Deborah
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Hi Anne
Forgot to ask if yesterday if you have access to other Suffolk Parish Records?
I would be interested in Hadleigh:-
William Faires lived there with his wife Ann(e). I know two daughters:-
Ann(e) baptised ? 29 May 1799 (she married Charles Spall)
Rebecca baptised 22 Jan 1806
Interested in any other siblings or marriage of William and Ann(e).
Also back to the Spall family; Emma Spall baptised 10 Feb 1839 could have been in St. Lawrence Church as the family were living in Dial Lane, Ipswich in 1841. Do you have sight of those records?
Many thanks once again.
Deborah.
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Hi Anne
Sorry just noticed that I'm confusing my Ann's - it is Ann Spall born in Hadleigh in 1821. The other Ann you gave me is her mother - thanks for that too.
Deborah.
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Hi Deborah
I looked up information for your request at the records office; I don't have any parish registers myself. Undoubtedly I'll be back there some time soon (I can't seem to keep away  ) and may be able to look up your further requests then, time permitting.
Best wishes
Anne
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Hi Anne
Thank you for looking up my 'interests' when you visited the Suffolk Records Office. If on another visit you find anything of interest to my research I would be very grateful. I know what you mean by 'time permitting' as it is easy to get totally engrossed and time just flies by!
If you ever need anything looking up at the Essex Records Office, I could return the favours.
Hopefully we'll be in touch again.
Best wishes
Deborah
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Hi Deborah
Anne is a real treasure who looks up a great raft of requests when she visits the SRO. To make life easier for her, I think that it would be best if you could start another request asking for specific lookups as she may not be visiting for a little while.
Kind Regards
Rick
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I have a Maria Spall (b. abt 1846-Framsden)married to George Ramsey(b. abt. 1848 Swilland )
Children
William(b. 1867)
George(b.1872)
Samuel( b.1874)
Kate(b.1877)
Alfred ( b. 1878)
Also have a Emma (b. abt 1840?) married George's older brother James Ramsey(b.1840-41)
George & James parents = Samuel Ramsey & Esther Riches
Any connections?
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Hi Deborah
Have been to the records office for a short while today and had a look for some of your other family.
Tried to find baptisms at Hadleigh of other children of William and Ann Faiers, but it was quite hard to read.
William 10 Oct 1791
Anne 11 Oct 1793
Ann 31 March 1797
Anne 20.5.1799
I could not read the register clearly in 1806 to make out Rebecca, although an illegitimate Rebecca was born in 1805/6 to somebody Faiers
I also tried to find the burials of the above Ann(s) or other siblings to throw some more light on it but could not make out any Faiers in the burial register, sorry.
However - I did find William and Ann's marriage, also at Hadleigh.
William Faires
Ann Bransby
Both OTP and both singlepersons
Married 15th November 1790
Both signed their names
In the presence of: Jude Faires and Sarah Corder
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Anne
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I also took a quick look at Ipswich St Lawrence.
Emma Spall d/o Charles & Ann Spall of Cook Row
Born 2nd January 1839
Baptised 10th February 1839
Looked as if Charles' occupation was "fruiterer" !
Regards
Anne
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Hi Anne
Thank you for remembering to look for me when you visited SRO yesterday - you are very kind and it is so appreciated.
I can see now that my Ann(e) Faires would be the latest one baptised in 1799 in Hadleigh. Confirmation of Wm and Ann's marriage is wonderful as I had found this one in the mormon records but one can never be too sure that it is the one you are looking for. Emma Spall's dob and baptism is in the right location too as in later Censuses they are living in Dial Lane, Ipswich and St. Lawrence is the nearest church. Her mother's occupation is that of 'Grocer' on Census returns so her father listing himself as a 'fruiterer' fits in nicely.
Once again thank you for all your detective work!
Regards
Deborah
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