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Stimpson/viner Names
« on: Saturday 19 January 08 13:31 GMT (UK) »


Hi,

Just wondering if anyone else has anything on the Stimpson Family from Abingdon, (In particular William Stimpson) or the Viner Family From Abingdon/Appleford (In particular Sarah Viner/Martha Viner/Philip Viner).. years of interest is around the 1850's-1900.

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Re: Stimpson/viner Names
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 January 08 13:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi and wecome to Rootschat
      I have PRs for Abingdon, is this who you are looking for.

                                           5th Aug 1891 at St Helens church

        William Stimpson age 28 batch occ gardener born Purley Berks
                             Married
        Sarah Viner age 26 sp occ machinist of The Abbey Abingdon
Parents William Stimpson lab, Philip Viner bricklayer
      Wit  William Collett and Ellen Viner.
If you need any more info let me know

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 January 08 14:11 GMT (UK) »


     Here is a baptism ive found at St Helens church
Aug 4th 1901 Sidney Frank Stimpson, Parents William occ gardener and Sarah
    Address 123 Ock Street Abingdon

                     Sue
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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 January 08 14:23 GMT (UK) »
oh my word that is fantastic.. that is exactly who I am looking for.. thank you so much for your fast response.

If you have anymore info regarding these people I would be grateful if you could post it many thanks again.

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 January 08 14:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gill,
         Ive looked up buriels for William and Sarah but cant find them at the moment. Do you know if they had any more children? What else do you need?

                        Sue
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 January 08 14:44 GMT (UK) »
wow I am impressed!!!!

We are quietly confident that we know of the dates of their deaths and burials (William - 17/1/49?? and Sarah 5/12/37)

With regard to other children, they also has Nellie (born before Sidney) and Freda. We have relevant info on Freda as this was my grandmother.

What would be really appreciative if you have any info on Sarah Viner's mum?? as have nothing on her and maybe baptisims for william and Sarah.. Many Thanks

Just out of curioursity it is possible to obtain these PR records by subscribing to something???

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 January 08 15:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gill,
        Found this marriage
                  26th March 1894
James Henry Dutton batch age 26 occ clothiers assistant add 26 Edge Baston Birmingham
Ellen Viner sp age 26 occ machinist add The Abbey
Parents John Dutton occ boatman and Philip Viner occ bricklayer
 Wit William Stimpson and Mary Viner

 I will see if i can find anything on this Mary. You have to buy these PRs here is the website for them www.ofhs.org.uk
Ive searched but have found nothing on Philip Viner at all and cant find bap for Sarah. Is it poss they lived somewhere else before Abingdon

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 January 08 15:52 GMT (UK) »
I have searched and cant find a Mary Viner in PRs at all. Maybe Mary is the mother. I have to go out soon but i will have another look for William later or tomorrow Gill. Maybe someone else will find something out but i cant find them in Abingdon.

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 19 January 08 17:07 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all your help Sue.. Much appreciated.

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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 19 January 08 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I don't know if you have any of this family (Viner) in the censuss but I went looking to see if they were in Abingdon - it appears they were,  though Philip was born in Appleton and Martha in Wootton,  I can't see any baptisms at the C of E churches but it is possible they were non-comformist,  Abingdon had several chaples at this time



1891 Abingdon St Nichs, Abbey


Martha Viner 51 wid tailoress born Wootton Oxfs.
Edwin Viner 31 
Martha Viner 28
Sarah Viner 25 
Ellen Viner 23
Alice Viner 21
Ellen Hartwell 23 
Albert Viner 17  (occupation soldier)
Frank Viner 14   
Clara Viner 13 
Heber Viner 10 
Harry Viner 7 

All born Abingdon - all except Albert sewing machinists - no occupation for Edwin
 


from 1881 - St Nichs - Abbey

Philip Viner 45  bricklayer - born Appleford
Edwin Viner 21  lab in brickyard
Sarah Viner 15 
Ellen Viner 13 
Mary Viner 9
Albert P. Viner 7 
Frank Viner 4 
Clara Viner 3 


from 1871 Abingdon

Philip Viner 37  bricklayer born Appleford Berks
Martha Viner 31  tailoress born Wootton Oxfs.
Edwin Viner 11
Martha Viner 9 
Sarah Viner 5 
Ellen Viner 3 
Alice Viner 1 



from 1861 Abingdon St Nichs - Abbey

Philip Viner 27 
Martha Viner 21 
Edwin Viner 1 
William Wallis 22  lodger born Ascot


from 1851 Appleford Berkshire

Philip Viner 44  Ag Lab born Appleford
Mary Viner 42   born Harwell Berks
Philip Viner 17 
George Viner 15 
Job Viner 15 
Sarah Viner 12 
Benjamin Viner 10 
Sarah Viner 8 
William Viner 6 
Mary Viner 4 


Name:  Philip Viner
Birth:  abt 1832
Death:  Dec 1888 - Abingdon, Berkshire, Oxfordshire


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Re: Stimpson/viner Names
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 19 January 08 18:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Debbie,

Thank you for your assistance.  It all appears to fit in well. However I have one question (sorry if I am being a little thick) but from previous info gathered regarding Sarah and Ellen's marraiges (in 1891 and 1894 respectively) it states that their father Philip was a bricklayer but having receieved your info it appears that he died in 1888.  Surely on the marriage certificate it would state 'deceased' or would they put in his occupation when he was alive???  Any more info you are able to give on any of the viners would be much appreciated..

Thanks again

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 19 January 08 20:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gill

wether they wrote the occupation or deceased on the marriage,  when the father was already dead seems to have been pretty random and up to the person officiating at the marriage,  there are many cases in the Abingdon records and others where the occupation is put in just as if the father was still alive.

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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 19 January 08 20:16 GMT (UK) »

Oh ok thanks for that.. in that case it seems incredibly likely that this is the viner family we are after... things are looking up.. Grin
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 19 January 08 20:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi - me again

I found this possible of FreeBMD for a marriage of Philip & Martha


Marriages Mar 1858   (>99%)

BENBOW  Martha    Woodstock  3a 653   
BUGGINS  Ellen     Woodstock  3a 653   
GROOM  Thomas William     Woodstock  3a 653   
Viner  Philip     Woodstock  3a 653   

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 19 January 08 20:53 GMT (UK) »
I think this would be Martha with her family in 1841 in Wootton in Oxfordshire - I wondered which Wootton it was cos there's one in Berkshire as well that is closer to Abingdon - but it appears its the Oxfordshire one which ties in with Woodstock for the registration district on the marriage

from 1841 census - Wootton Oxfordshire

John Benbow 35 
Hannah Benbow 35 
William Benbow 12 
Sarah Benbow 10 
Mary Benbow 8 
Jane Benbow 6 
Eliza Benbow 4 
Martha Benbow 1 


At the moment I can't find the family in 1851 or 61 - but John and Hannah were still alive cos I've found them in 1871 still in Wootton - though all the children have left home

Hannah Benbow 69 
John Benbow 67 




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