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« on: Sunday 20 January 08 11:23 GMT (UK) »

TRYING TO TRACE THE PARENTS OF BOTH =WILLIAM WILLIAMS  b SALOP 1831 AND HIS WIFE HARRIETT ?  b SALOP 1833.WHO HAD 4 CHILDREN ANNIE,HENRIETTA, JULIA, AND MINNIE.AND ANY OTHER ANCESTORS, THANKS FOR ANY HELP.


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« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 January 08 16:41 GMT (UK) »

Hi

You don't say where you got the information. Is this them in 1871:

1871
High Street, Shifnal, Shropshire

RG10/2748 Folio 77 Page 16

William Williams, 40, Tin plate worker, b. Murton or Nurton (?)
Harriett, 38, b. Shifnal
William, 13,  b. Shifnal
Julia, 9,  b. Shifnal
Ann,6,  b. Shifnal
Maria, 3,  b. Shifnal


William's place of birth is difficult to read - I'll try to check it out.

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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 January 08 16:46 GMT (UK) »

Hi again

On the 1881 he is down as being born Muckston. I think this is Mucklestone/ Muxton

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SAL/Mucklestone/index.html

1881 Census ref - RG11/2634 Folio 63 page 22

I'll give you the full details if these are your family.

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 January 08 16:51 GMT (UK) »

Looking at the names you mentioned, I do think they are your family and I see no other with such a good match:

1881
High Street, Shifnal, Shropshire
(shop)

RG11/2634 Folio 63 page 22
William Williams, 49, Brazier, b. Muckston
Harriett, 48, b. Shifnal
William, 23, Brazier,  b. Shifnal
Ann,17,  gen servant, b. Shifnal
Minnie, 15,  b. Shifnal
Thomas, grandson, 2, b. Shifnal

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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 January 08 23:38 GMT (UK) »

A possible marriage registration for them:

William Willaims, Shifnal, June Quater, 1854, vol 6a Page 1130

on the same page is a Harriet Hollinshed

You can check that this is her correct surname on Julia's birth cert:


Julia Williams, June Quarter, 1861, Shifnal, Vol 6a, Page 587

If you get the marriage cert, it will give you William and Harriet's fathers' names and occupation.


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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 January 08 23:40 GMT (UK) »

Baptism of Harriet Ann Hollingshead, Shifnal on the IGI

19 May 1834. Partents - Matthew Hollingshead and Jane

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 January 08 23:51 GMT (UK) »

I can't locate a birth/bpt. for William at the moment. Here they are on the 1861. It looks as if they are on the same house:


High Street, Shifnal
RG9/1854 Folio 75 Page 10

William, 30, tinman
Harriet, 26
Harriet, 7
Henrietta, 6
William, 3

All down as born Shifnal

I'll see if there's a William, b. Shifnal  Undecided

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 January 08 00:07 GMT (UK) »

This looks like William on the 1851 - but yet another birth place.

Market Place, Shifnal
HO107/1987 Folio 389 Page 49

William Tomlinson, 50, Brazier, b. Stafford
Sarah, 45, b. Much Wenlock
Ann Clayton, m in l, wid, 73, b. ? Atchham
Mary Ann ?, niece, 14, b. Sheriffhales
William Williams, journeyman, 21, tin plate worker , b. Lillieshall
Ann ?, servant, 17, servant, b. Sheriffhales

Note - all the places mentioned for William's birth are reasonably close together.

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 January 08 00:19 GMT (UK) »

There is a baptism of a possible William in Lillieshall:

25 Oct 1829, Lillieshall

Parents - Richard Williams and Ann

As this is a fairly common name and he gives a variety of birthplaces, it would be best to get the marriage cert that I gave you the reference to. This will give father's name.

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« Reply #9 on: Monday 21 January 08 12:55 GMT (UK) »

SORRY HAVEN`T REPLIED SOONER-HAD CAR TROUBLE-FIXED NOW.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS,WILLIAM WAS BORN IN SHIFNAL ACCORDING TO FAMILY MEMBERS !!

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 21 January 08 13:48 GMT (UK) »

Well, is this the family  Huh

Also, how did your family members find this and do they have any other information that would help?

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 21 January 08 14:05 GMT (UK) »

 

Info was from my wifes mother who died some years ago,so no help now !

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« Reply #12 on: Monday 21 January 08 14:08 GMT (UK) »

It does look like the correct family on the censuses though. Just that William seemed to have problems about his birthplace - not all that unusual though. They liked to keep us on our toes  Smiley

I'll see if I can find anything else for you.

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« Reply #13 on: Monday 21 January 08 14:19 GMT (UK) »

Only William Williams that I can find in Shifnal on the 1841 around the correct age is this one:

Lime Kiln Bank, Shifnal
HO107/909 Book 10, Folio 25 Page 6

Ralph Pointon, 45-49, ag Lab
Elizabeth, 35-39
John, 20-24, collier
Joseph, 15-19, collier
Ellen, 13
Henry, ? 1,
Richard Williams, 12
William Williams, 8

All born Shropshire

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 23 January 08 11:30 GMT (UK) »

Looking at the names you mentioned, I do think they are your family and I see no other with such a good match:

1881
High Street, Shifnal, Shropshire
(shop)

RG11/2634 Folio 63 page 22
William Williams, 49, Brazier, b. Muckston
Harriett, 48, b. Shifnal
William, 23, Brazier,  b. Shifnal
Ann,17,  gen servant, b. Shifnal
Minnie, 15,  b. Shifnal
Thomas, grandson, 2, b. Shifnal

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Hi,

Annie Williams b1865, married Alec Titley?,  they had a child named Minnie after her aunt.  Minnie married someone named Doody (I don't know if this is his surname or a nickname).  Unfortunatley I don't have any dates for Minnie.

I would be grateful of any help with this.

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