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maisiemiller
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I would like help finding out william dawsons father please.
His mother was Anniah Dawson born 1802 in Matterdale. She married Roberet Pattinson on 5th April 1834, but William was born in 1833 in Greystoke. I found his christening but it only stated his mother Anniah Dawson, so I presume he was illegitimate. Where can I find his father?
Also William Dawson married Sarah Greebhow 16 november 1867 but in 1861 census it describes him as a widower. In 1851 he is single living with his mother Anniah and stepfather Robert Pattinson, so who was his first wife? Any ideas?
Maisie 
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maisiemiller
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Carole How are you so sure? Isnt there any way to find it and I'm sorry to sound so simple but what would be the reasons for not naming the father? Wouldnt she take some payment for the upkeep etc?
Maisie
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CaroleW
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Hi Maisie
This was 1833 - No Child Support Agency in those days I'm afraid.
She married in 1834 (when the law changed re: bastardy bonds) so he would have been supported by her new husband from then onwards.
Have a look at this link which although dealing with Lincolnshire may give you a rough idea
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/poorbastard.html
If you want to pursue it - you would need to find out whether and where any bastardy bonds for Cumberland are held
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maisiemiller
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Hi Carole
I didnt mean bastardy bonds as I have looked into this. Would the parish church have some records which didnt make it official?
Maisie
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CaroleW
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Subaru
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Hi Maisie
Just to throw a spanner in the works, and complicate things further - here are my thoughts 
Anniah was 30 yrs old when William was born. That's quite old in those days for a first baby (no contraception etc  )
Could she not have already been married, and her husband died while she was expecting William? So when he was baptised, she was on her own.
And have you looked on IGI to see if there are any brothers and sisters born earlier than William?
Maybe William wasn't illegitimate after all?
Rosemary
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GROGGINS, GLASSON, FARRELLY, PYE, CAMPBELL, HENVY, GLAVE - Ireland, Whitehaven (Cumberland)
BEARDEN, BOWMAN - Whitehaven/Beckermet Cumberland
ROONEY, WARD, MALONE - Ireland, Cleator Moor (Cumberland)
MAIN, CUTTER, CLAYTON, PRYKE - Thetford, Swaffham (Norfolk)
FORD/E - Ireland, Warwickshire England
COULTHARD - Whitehaven/Workington (Cumberland)
DWAN - Ireland
LAWSON - Isle of Man, Whitehaven
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Subaru
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Where did you find William's christening Maisie? There is a baptism on IGI at Matterdale on 12 Feb 1832 for a William Dawson, mother Annia.
There's also a John Dawson, baptised 30 May 1824 at Matterdale, mother Annia.
There is a birth of an Annia Dawson on 3 October 1802 at Matterdale, father John, mother Ann.
I found a marriage for a William Dawson to Jane Nicholson in 1857 at Penrith J/F/M. Vol 10b p433. Maybe his first wife?
You never know, Annia maybe had both children to Robert, and they only got around to getting married after William was born
Rosemary
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GROGGINS, GLASSON, FARRELLY, PYE, CAMPBELL, HENVY, GLAVE - Ireland, Whitehaven (Cumberland)
BEARDEN, BOWMAN - Whitehaven/Beckermet Cumberland
ROONEY, WARD, MALONE - Ireland, Cleator Moor (Cumberland)
MAIN, CUTTER, CLAYTON, PRYKE - Thetford, Swaffham (Norfolk)
FORD/E - Ireland, Warwickshire England
COULTHARD - Whitehaven/Workington (Cumberland)
DWAN - Ireland
LAWSON - Isle of Man, Whitehaven
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maisiemiller
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Hi Rosemary. All the information you gave me I can confirm is right although I didnt know about John Dawson. I looked him up in IGI and youre right, but it seems a long gap from 1824 to 1833 dont you think? I suppose she could have been married before but on the census information we have she lived with her father, but there is no mention of John. Either he died or was living with someone else. It strikes me Anniah was a bit of a goer. Have you any more suggestions to solve this mystery? Thanks.
Maisie
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Subaru
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You said William was born 1833 - the baptism Rosemary found was 1832
Where did you find William's baptism Maisie? I know you said that he was born at Greystoke in 1833, could there be two of them?
Rosemary
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GROGGINS, GLASSON, FARRELLY, PYE, CAMPBELL, HENVY, GLAVE - Ireland, Whitehaven (Cumberland)
BEARDEN, BOWMAN - Whitehaven/Beckermet Cumberland
ROONEY, WARD, MALONE - Ireland, Cleator Moor (Cumberland)
MAIN, CUTTER, CLAYTON, PRYKE - Thetford, Swaffham (Norfolk)
FORD/E - Ireland, Warwickshire England
COULTHARD - Whitehaven/Workington (Cumberland)
DWAN - Ireland
LAWSON - Isle of Man, Whitehaven
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CaroleW
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Hi Rosemary
Suspect it was the 1871 for Cumberland
RG10; Piece: 5204; Folio: 22; Page: 4
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