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Kelly1
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I have been trying to find a marriage between John Dobson and Ellen/Helen Woodward. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find anything.
I have searched on Ancestry and freebmd between the years 1881 and 1902 in Nottingham. (John Dobson died 1902)
I think that they either did not get married or that their names may have been mistranscribed.
I have tried searching on Freebmd and just putting their first names, but I can't seem to find anything. I have also tried searching by their surnames but the only marriage between a Dobson and Woodward, In Nottingham, is for an John Woodward and an Amelia Dobson.
Does anyone know of anyway I can try to find a marriage record, if they did actually get married.
Any help would be truly appreciated.
Kelly. 
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nanny jan
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Hi Kelly,
Could they have married before 1881 and somewhere other than Nottingham?
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Hi Nanny Jan,
On the 1881 census John Dobson is listed as Unmarried. But I suppose they could have actually been married before 1881. John Dobson was born 1857 and Ellen/ Helen was born c1859.
I think that if they did get married it would have been in Nottingham.
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Kelly1
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I am still currently trying to find a marriage for John Dobson and Ellen Woodward, But I am still not having any luck.
I have tried searching freebmd using just forenames, but I can't see anything obvious.
Does anyone know any variations of Dobson and Woodward, that I can try? Also, I was wondering if it is at all possible to search parish records using just forenames?
Like I have all ready said the only marriage record, in Nottingham, between a Woodward and Dobson. Is for a John Woodward and Amelia Dobson in 1875.
According to census records John and Ellen had their first child c1881. They had 2 of their children baptized/christened in 1891. Also one of their children died 1891 and was buried in the church yard at Bulwell.
Someone has checked Bulwell St Mary's parish records for the marriage, but unfortunately nothing was found. The lady who looked for me said she hasn't got any other parish records for Bulwell. So they may have married in another church.
Has anyone got any advice of how I can try and find the marriage, if it did actually happen?
Any help would be truly appreciated.
Kelly.
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Jane Swan
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Hi Kelly
I have just had a very good ook and cannot find it. What I have found is
John Dobson to Wiiliam Eli & Sabrina Pearson
Born 5.10.1857
Bap 23 10 1857 St Barnabas
If this is the correct birth St Barnabas is the Roman Catholic Cathedral on Derby Road, Nottm. (City Centre).
Have you looked at Catholic marriages etc?
Jane
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Kelly1
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Hi Jane,
Thank you for your help, it is truly appreciated.
John Dobson was born in Leicestershire, and his parents were William and Jane.
Ellen Woodward was born in Nottingham.
I was hoping to find a marriage for them, so I could be 100 % certain who Ellen's father was.
The only marriage that I could find between a Dobson and a Woodward is for a John Woodward and Amelia Dobson. But I don't know if the married each other as their are another couple on the same page.
John and Ellen have been quite a difficult family to trace. I can't find a birth record for some of their children. I have only found two baptism's for 2 of their children. They also had a daughter called Florence who lived with John's sister.
Someone found a possible baptism for Florence but the parents were John Woodward and Ellen Woodward. I can't find a John and Ellen Woodward on the census so I'm assuming the baptism is for my Florence.
On my Great Grandmother birth certificate, Ellen signed the cert with her mark. On another of their children's marriage certificate the father is named as William Dobson, but the birth cert says John Dobson.
I hadn't thought at looking at catholic marriages, do you know how I would go about that?
Thank you once again for all of your help.
Kelly.
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I am still trying to find out if John Dobson and Ellen Woodward did ever get married. But I still can't seem to find anything.
John and Ellen had their first child Annie Dobson c1881, but for some reason I can't seem to find Annie's birth record either.
A contact of mine has found a birth record for a Annie May Kerry born 1880 Nottinghamshire. John Dobson's sisters married surname was Kerry so we are just wondering if Annie was actually John and Ellen's niece?
The only marriage record I can find is a John Woodward to an Amelia Dobson, but that record is on Freebmd so I don't actually know if they married each other.
I would like to try and find a marriage record, so that I can find Ellen's fathers name.
Any help would be truly appreciated.
Kelly.
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Kelly1
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Hi Jill,
I have found that Ellen on the census. From Memory I think there are other children born between Ellen and samuel. Also One of the young children (I think Richard) was actually one of the older daughters child.
The Ellen you have found on the census is living in Bulwell Key Street on the 1881 census. John Dobson is also living at Key street Bulwell on the 1881 census with his parents. This is why I originally thought that Ellen must be my Ellen. But I like to find a marriage record so I can be 100% certain of Ellen's fathers name.
George Woodward was married twice, I think he married Mary A Pinkett about 1851?
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Hi Jill,
Thank you for your help, it is truly appreciated.
I will deffinately look into that marriage. I will have a look to see if I can trace the couple through the census tomorrow.
I have some baptism records for Woodwards born in Bulwell. It looks like the Brother called Richard on the 1881 census may be John and Ellen's child. There is a baptism for a Richard Woodward with parents named John WOODWARD and Ellen!
There is also another christening for a Woodward child which I think may be John and Ellen's but this time the fathers name is William Woodward!
On one of John and Ellen's daughter marriage cert it has the father named as William but on her birth cert it says John!
This family deffinately know how to make things difficult!
Thank you once again for your help, it is truly appreciated.
Kelly.
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