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slimmer
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George Gunn
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Hi
I have a George Gunn born 1882, m Jessie greenhouse 9 Sept 1906 brixton .Lambeth, the family rumor is he died before 1926 ,I can't find any death records, my nan ( Jessie Greenhouse) remarried, does anyone have any clues to his death or birth
Christine
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nanny jan
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Hi,
Found this birth registration on http://freebmd.rootsweb.com :
George Gunn Sep Q 1882 Lambeth 1d 545
This might be your man.
Did this couple have any children? If so then when was the last one born?
Could he have died in WW1?
Nanny Jan
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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick) all LDN area/suburbs Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT Gandy/LDN before 1830 Burgess/LDN
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Barbara F
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Hello Christine
Do you have the marriage certificate? What was George's occupation and what was his father's name and occupation? Who were the witnesses? This will help us identify George on a census and then, hopefully, lead to a birth registration.
Do you know when and where Jessie remarried? Did George and Jessie have children - if so when was the youngest born and where? This will help narrow down a death date and place.
This could be a child:
Births Jun 1917
Gunn Ruth S Greenhouse Croydon 2a 454
Barbara
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Hi Nanny Jan
Yes they had three children Violet, Jessie May 1910 George, Ruth s 1917 was by a american army . sorry it should have been died before 1917. 1916 was when my mum was born the second marrage.
Christine
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slimmer
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Hi Barbara
the first child, I can't find , my mum always said she was called violet sadie or sadie violet, I havn't found her anywhere then Jessie may 1910, George have no date for him either, not sure where second marrage was, Jessie second married Albert Charles Smith, how many of them are there?
Christine
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Hi Christine,
Can't find a death for George Gunn but these might be the children:
Jessie May Gunn Mar 1910 Lambeth 1d 340
George William Gunn Sep 1908 Lambeth 1d 440
There are 2 possibles for Violet:
Violet Eleanor Gunn May 1907 Lambeth 1d 443 or
Violet C Gunn Mar 1911 Lambeth 1d 397
All found on http://freebmd.rootsweb.com
Nanny Jan
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Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick) all LDN area/suburbs Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT Gandy/LDN before 1830 Burgess/LDN
Barham SFK
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Hi Nanny Jan
Thanks I will look into them especially violets
Christine
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Barbara F
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Sorry Christine but I am a bit confused!
Your mother was born 1916 from the second marriage to Albert Charles Smith (presumably registered as Smith) but Ruth Gunn was born after this?
Do you have Jessie and George's marriage certificate?
Barbara
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Hi Barbara
Sorry getting my 1 and 2 mixed up, Ruth born 1917 by amareican after George persumable died my mum born 1926 by second marrage, she was a Smith, getting myself confused, having two marrages on both sides it is a nightmare, Albert Charles Smith was also married before, i don't know his first wife, I can remember my mother saying there was a Harry Smith which was one of the children i think they was four, my mother didn't remmber them as they where grown up by the time she was born, any help with this I would be grateful
Christine
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Barbara F
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Hello Christine
Much clearer now thank you 
This looks like Jessie's second marriage
June 1921
Jessie Gunn Croydon 2a 650 Spouse Smith
Corresponding entry for Albert C Smith
The Reg District fits with the birth of Ruth.
This limits the time frame for George's death - assuming the second marriage was legal of course!
I have had a quick look on the Commonwealth Graves site for a death for George but did not see anything obvious - I will take another look.
Barbara
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Barbara F
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I am having no luck with George's death. I have checked the full death index from 1910 - 1920 for the quarters that have not been transcribed by Free BMD and the first 2 Quarters of 1921.
There are some George Gunn deaths but none that fit with what we know of your man.
As Nanny Jan said the likelihood is that he died in the War which would explain why his death is not in the usual regieters.
On the CWGC site there are only 2 G Gunns that I think could be yours assuming a birth date of 1882 and one Gunn - all age unknown.
Take a look at the site
http://www.cwgc.org/
and let me know what you think.
It might be worth asking on the WW1 board for a look up in Soldiers Died in the Great War in case there are details that may be of help.
Barbara
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Hi Barbara
I have looked at cwgc, but as I'm not totally sure when George was born, car'nt say for certain which one, I am gratefull for the number's for the marrages, for both George and Albert which I shall certainally get
thank you, that is somthing I can get on with
Christine
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Barbara F
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Hello Christine
If you get the marriage certificate for George it should give you his age (let's hope it does not say "full age"). You can then look again at the WW1 deaths.
Let us know when you get the certificates.
Barbara
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