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Topic: confusion over shropshire townships on census records (Read 1020 times)
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Gadget
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1851 - Selina's brothers:
HO107/1993 Folio 266 Page 7
Tynydrain
Joseph Morgan, unm, 34, Farmer 275 acres employing 1 labourer, b. Selattyn
Edward Morgan, brother, unm 45, labourer in Agriculture, b. Whittington
and 6 farm servants.
I think that the Edward was the one first on the list in the 1841. It seems that Selina's parents, Edward and Elizabeth, must have been in Whittington, Shropshire (not too far away) early on. I'll see what I can find on them.
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I have an Edward Morgan marrying an Elizabeth Rogers in Whittington, 28 October 1791, by licence. This could well be the parents of Selina. I'll check out things later today 
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This is what I have from the IGI for Morgans bapt. Whittington, parents Edward and Elizabeth, 1790 - 1812. All controlled extractions.
Richard - 28 Oct 1792 - buried 28 May 1793
John - 23 Mar 1794
Elizabeth - 28 May 1795
Hannah - 8 Jan 1787
Richard - 29 Aug 1798
Eleanor - 26 Jan 1800
Edward - 27 Jun 1802
Mary - June 1806
Nothing after that.
Then we have, in Selattyn - again controlled extractions:
Jane - b. 15 April 1810. Bpt 28 May 1812 )
) both entered as Tynydrain
William - b. 24 May 1812. Bpt 28 May 1812)
Selena - 15 April 1816
Joseph, from the 1851 census, appears to have been born circa 1817 but I cannot find him so far
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A possible burial for Elizabeth Morgan (mother of Selina) :
St Mary's Church, Selattyn, 25 August 1837
Elizabeth Morgan, Aged 64 - therefore b.c. 1773
and a possible burial for sister/daughter, Elizabeth (b. 1795)
St Mary's Church, Selattyn, 8 Jan 1819
Elizabeth Morgan, aged 23
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I have two possible births for Elizabeth Rogers (Selina's mother) from the Whittington records:
8 Jan 1773 Elizabeth, daughter of Nathaniel Rogers, brewer at Halston and Eleanor, his wife of Whittington
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28 Mar 1773 Elizabeth, daughter of Thomas Rogers and his wife Elizabeth of Henlle
It's difficult to work out which but the marriage bond might give some info. I'll see if I can get the reference for you.
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Hi Gadget,
You are an absolute machine, obviously with a vast knowledge of knowing just where to look, I'm gob smacked! Thank you.
Could I be so bold as to ask you if you can find Selina's husband Thomas for me I only have him on the 1851 census. His details are on my first post on this subject.
Judy
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Hi Judy
I'm away for a few days but will look if I can get onto the Internet.
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Hi Judy
THis is the only Thomas that fits in the 1841:
HO107/918 Book 4 Folio 26 Page 1
Elson, Elllesmere
Thomas Furmston, 20-24, Farmer
Hannah Jones, 30-34, Female servant
Thomas Furkins, 15-19, ag lab
Edward Haynes, 10, ag lab
All born county
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Hi Judy
I've found a Thomas Furmston on the IGI - controlled extraction:
Baptised Ellesmere - 31 Jan 1818
Parents - Edward Furmston and Anne
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Children of Edward Furmston and Anne, bpt. Ellesmere:
Mary and Sarah - 21 Feb 1815
Edward - 1 May 1816
Thomas - 31 Jan 1818
Anne - 19 March 1820
John - 16 Feb 1821
Susannah - 13 April 1823
Henry - 28 Aug 1824
Also some of Thomas and Selina's children are on this Batch - CO37422
3 Dec 1842 - Susan Selina
I suggest you have a detailed look at that batch.
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Hi Gadget,
This must be my Thomas on 1841.
I have done the IGI & Parish Films so I do have his parents & even further back.
It was 1839 when Thomas's father died and his mother was also dead, However I have had difficulty putting Thomas together, thanks to you it's all falling into place. Thomas also had 2 brothers, Edward bap 1816, I have him complete except for his marriage to Sarah ?then their is John , bap 16 Feb 1821 and I can't find him on the census records at all.
On the 1841 census for Edward (Grocer) there is a John Furmston (Apprentice) age 14, but as he was 19/20 years old at the time I wonder if it is indeed Edward & Thomas's brother. What do you think? An opinion on this would be great, & thank you again for all your searching for me.
Regards
Judy
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Hi Judy
I'm not sure about John, aged 14. The 1841 census used age rounding but if he was the one bpt Feb 1821 he would be 20-24 on the June 1841 census.
There were quite a few Furmston/es in the area. Indeed, one of my school friends had this surname. I think that the only thing that you can do is to follow this John through the censuses to check. Also, have you checked for a death for John before 1841?
Gadget
Added - just noticed that in my listing of Edward and Anne's children (see above) , there is a Henry bpt 1824. You don't mention him. Did he die?
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