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Topic: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names (Read 18457 times)
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DudleyWinchurch
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Hi all,
Instead of just looking at direct family I wondered if anyone else out there is searching the same area as me?
Not sure if this is the best place for this (rather than the Staffordshire forum, for example) but it's a little bit off direct FH so I thought I'd try here (if it's in the wrong place, I guess the MODs will move it where it ought to be).
I've found that several generations of one branch of my family lived in Bilston throughout the 19th Century and possibly earlier.
I've searched through the census pages and also been lucky enough to find Church records for many that even tell me the names of their godparents.
They were large families with lots of girls so I have found connections to many other local families.
Is there anyone else out there whose family come from 19th Century Bilston? It seems to have been a melting pot for folk from many parts of Britain, including Wales and Ireland.
Occupations include Miners, Forge Workers (including Labourers and Engineers), Japanners, Stove Enamellers, Shopkeepers, Publicans, Schoolteachers - often with quite a mix of these in the same family.
So any other Bilston researchers who would like to chat, I'd love to hear from you. 
We might even have families in common, even if the relationships are tenuous.
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk, O'Malley (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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DudleyWinchurch
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Glad to see people are reading this - but no responses yet 
Just to start you off, I'm going to list some of the 3-4 dozen names I have already found as godparents (with the approx. dates when they did so).
These don't appear in my SIT, as they are not related (or not yet as far as I know) but obviously have some connection with my family (hence the interest in all their friends and neighbours).
James Tate - 1840
Jane Homer - 1840, 1843
Martha Smith (acted as proxy for someone who is a relative, 1848)
Elizabeth Johnson - 1850 (may be a relative)
Daniel Bowlan - 1851
Ann Roonay/Rooney - 1851 (also as Ann Cullen, 1861, 1863)
Joseph Shale - 1853, 1859, 1861
Mary Ann Shale - 1859, 1861
Obediah Johnson - 1855, 1867 (possibly a relative)
Sarah Lyth - 1855 (definitely a neighbour)
James Cummins - 1857
Mary Tunny - 1857
John and Maria Burke - 1859, 1863
Jeremiah Kennedy - 1861
John McNicholas - 1863
Agnes Shale - 1864
John Joseph Joice - 1865
Mary Ann Hayes - 1865
Agnes Cockhill - 1867
LOTS MORE ...
If any of these belong to you, I can give you details of when they appeared as godparents and to whom and maybe you could tell us a little more about them. 
Also note, these come from Latin records so Ann could also be Annie, Hannah or Nancy, Mary could be Maria and vv. etc.
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk, O'Malley (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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leighton
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Hello Dud,
I have a g g grandfather who was born in Bilston. Henry Williams was born and baptised in December 1837. His parents were William Williams and Sarah Jones, Oxford Road, Bilston. They were married in Wolverhampton in May 1832 and lived in Bilston at least until about 1841. After that they moved to West Bromwich. They had nine children, six in Bilston and three in West Bromwich.
William was a Forgeman and was born about 1807. He gave his birthplace as Shropshire. Sarah was born about 1813 in Bilston. I have not been able to extend either of them any further back.
Leighton
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Arranroots
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Hello Dud
I have moved this to Staffordshire because I am hopeful that you will get a more "tuned-in" audience here!
kind regards, Arranroots 
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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS WIL: WEBB, SALTER RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK) |
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Ruth J
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littleClaire,
Did any of your Nicholls marry a Spruson?
Ruth j
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DudleyWinchurch
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Hi All.
just got home and great to see everyone is talking about this.
Thanks Arranroots - I wasn't sure if I was allowed to use the main boards for talking about friends and neighbours who might not be relatives.
Leighton, I have a Williams family but not tracked before the 1880s so far as a Philip Williams b. 1883 married the daughter of one of my Dudley girls in 1914. They were a big family still living in Bilston up to the 1900s.
Claire, I have a Thomas Hartill as a godfather in 1887?
I'm very interested in your Mary Dudley. My GGGGrandfather was Benjamin Dudley and he married a Mary Johnson in 1810. Although they had several girls, who all seem to have been baptised in Bilston, none of them were called Mary but if he'd been married before (it doesn't say in the parish record) and already had a Mary, that would make sense. Do you know anything more about her?
For everyone else, I'll add some more names soon so keep asking about anyone you're looking for. Each of these names is mentioned in a parish record that I have made notes from and/or photographed. Obviously there may be more names as there are often more than one record clearly visible on these pictures and I will look again when I have a list of names to look for.
Most of the records but not all are from the Holy Trinity Church registers so if you know that some of your family were Catholic or married Catholics they may well be there. I seem to have had family of several different denominations in Bilston.
Sheila
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk, O'Malley (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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DudleyWinchurch
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Another list of names ...
Mary Ann Chillington - 1867
John McNully/MCNulty/McNolty? - 1868m 1889
Eliza Joyce - 1868
William Jones - 1870
John O'Brien - 1870
Bridget Taylor - 1870
Benjamin Shale - 1871, 1888
John Clarke - 1872
Mary Clynes - 1874
Matthew Ward - 1876
Francis Scally - 1877
Jane Clynes - 1877
Joseph Wright - 1880, 1881
Frances Wright - 1880
John Farrell - 1881
Johanna/Jane? Jones - 1881
Joseph and Elizabeth Corkindale - 1883 (related to Williams family?)
John Kelly - 1887
Thomas Hartill - 1887
Maria Parmer - 1887
Remember:
that dates are when they became godparents
first names are translated from Latin in many cases
family names also seem to have very variable spelling in that register
There are still more names and the ones I've listed here are just godparents to my family. I also have records of baptisms of children of some of these people and some marriage details, so a lot more names too. So do get in touch if your family were in Bilston at around that time (any time 19th or early 20th Centuries)
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk, O'Malley (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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alunno-a
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Hi there,
Have you come across a Horton family??
I have done very little on my tree branch as yet, but do know I have a lot of Hortons from the Bilston area who left for work in the mills around Haslingden, Lancs around the 1850 (I think)-poss originally iron workers, in nail factory???--this I think-the shift to mill towns-was a common occurence for Bilston folk- there are a lot on the Lancs census.
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WRY- Thompson,Cowburn,Walker, Glossop,
London- Chesney/Chesnut
all areas- Tuxworth
Lincs/ Notts- Graves, White, Wilson,Pedge,Tuxford, Bonner
Devon- Dean, Crode (also NFL) Coode, Tucker, Miles ( origin Hampshire)
Beds/Herts/ Northants- Newberry, Shepherd, Norton, Blackabey
Kent- Munn, Moore
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DudleyWinchurch
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Sorry Alunno-a,
No Hortons in my transcriptions but will look our for them next time I go through all the images.
A few more family names I definitely have some, information on:
Titley, Wilson, Brown, Goodreid, Lambert, Lees, Woodall, Lewis, Pearsall, Green, Cox (two different families), Davies, King, Fisher, Mottram, Lawton
All had someone who married members of my Bilston families, so related by marriage.
Sheila
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk, O'Malley (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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DudleyWinchurch
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Posts: 895
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Adding another set of names - but I have some records for many more so let me know of any Bilston folk you are interested in.
again, these dates are the times when they were godparents
Martha Shale - 1888
John Clynes - 1890
Jane Hayes - 1890
Thomas Patrick Kearnes - 1892, 1895
Margaret Ann Kearnes - 1892
Peter Lewis - 1894
Anna Welsh - 1894
Maria Kearnes - 1895
Catherine Lewis - 1896
Walter Hugo Delaney - 1897
Margaret Ingoldsby - 1897
Bidelia Coyne - 1897
William Marsh - 1898
Ann(a) Danks - 1898
Mary Blunt - 1899
Maria Pinner - 1905
Edward Maloney - 1908
Maria Higgins - 1908
I felt sure that with all these names there would be more people out there researching,
Sheila
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk, O'Malley (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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Hello
I have been told my grandfather James Jones came from the Black Country I have no idea where and when he was born. My mother was born 1918 and she was one of the youngest so far I am not sure where and when James Jones and my grandmother Rose Pearsall married.
Regards Pam
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DudleyWinchurch
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Hi Pam,
My great-grandfather's brother, William Dudley married Nancy Pearsall at Holy Trinity Church in December 1880. Unfortunately Nancy died the following year and I haven't yet traced her family.
There were lots of Jones families in Bilston during the 19th century
from FREEBMD
Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%)
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Jones James Aston 6d 433
Pearsall Rose Anna G Aston 6d 433
SHIPLEY Edward William Aston 6d 433
Tandy Effie Aston 6d 433
Could these be your Grandparents? I think that Aston is now a district of Birmingham but it is also not far from Bilston and I have family who later moved to Aston.
Sheila
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk, O'Malley (Ireland)
Dudley, Winchurch, Wolverson, Brookes (Black Country)
Concannon, Moore, Markowski (Markesky), Mottram, Lawton (Black Country)
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