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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 27 January 08 10:27 UTC (UK) »

Hello

Thank you for your prompt reply.

I do have that certificate  saya James age 21 father Edward and Rose age 19 father Samuel  but on the birth certificates I have the mother is only Rose nee Pearsall.  My mother died at 54 before I was interested in Genealogy  and also my father.

On the marriage certificate of my mother Edith in 1945 she was 26 it says father deceased. We did not seem to have much to do with Rose something to do with my father he did not allow it. 

I cannot prove that these are the correct grandparents.

If I was in Birmingham I would be at the library  searching the voters lists .

I know they were in Berkeley road before the war and that James was a gas foreman.


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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 27 January 08 10:38 UTC (UK) »

Just found that according to NA site, there is a Rose Pearsall aged 17, living in Aston, who is an Iron Nail Rivetter?

There don't seem to be any other Pearsalls on the same census sheet.

If she was 17 at the beginning of 1901, she could well have been 19 at the end of 1902!

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 27 January 08 10:43 UTC (UK) »

In 1891, what appears to be that same Rose, was already in Aston, on the same census page as a Samuel born about 1872, in Cheshire.

Maybe someone with full access to Ancestry  can give you the complete details.
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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 27 January 08 10:50 UTC (UK) »

Thank you very much for your help.


I do have ancestry and have looked.  James does not seem to have a middle name.

I would love to claim this family, but cannot prove them relatives, I have moms birth certificate also and a Violet and Alice.

The other siblings were born before the mothers maiden name was listed .  I know of a Beatrice and James maybe a Frederick and Lucy  but Alice was the only one we had contact with.

Many thanks

Regards Pam



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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 27 January 08 11:57 UTC (UK) »

 Cheesy
Hi Dudley
Thought I was the only one researching family history in the Bilston area.  Five generations of the Harris family including myself were born in Bilston. Very new to this subject so have only got as far back as my great great granddad. born 1828 - died 1866. Names so far -

Abraham Thomas Harris - Father B.1907
Abraham Thomas Harris - Grandfather B.1880
John Henry Harris - Great grandfather B.1851
Abraham Harris -Great great grandfather B.1828

There is a history of work in the steel industry, which was big in the Bilston area in those days, with jobs such as Brass Polisher, Ironworker, Pudler, Iron Furnace Millman shown as occupations on Birth/Death certificates etc.  On my grandmothers side Black Japanners are listed occupations.

Other names I will be researching in due course are Martha Ellen Betts, Sarah Hughes and Sarah Caddick, all probably from Bilston as well.  There were a lot of family's in Bilston during the 1800's. Between 1801 and 1901 the population grew from 6,914 to 24,034.

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 27 January 08 12:37 UTC (UK) »

Hi Roy,

I don't think I've come across any Harris folk connected with my family as yet but we certainly have Furnace labourers and Engineers and Pud(d)lers and many of the girls were Japanners.

The main names I am tracing back in Bilston are McDonough, Dudley and Winchurch but these families married into many more families and seem to have had lots of friends in Bilston too.

I've only been researching just over a year but have learned a lot of history in the mean-time and am very interested in how they lived and worked.  I took a walk around the area last summer but a lot of it has disappeared for the Black Country Route and much has been rebuilt.  There were still some interesting old buildings and the churches remain but not a lot of the gravestones.

My father's family seems to have moved into Wolverhampton about 1912 but the Dudley line seem to have been in Bilston from before 1800, the Winchurches arriving in the early 1820s and the McDonoughs probably 1851 but there were other McDonough families there before that who may be related too.

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #21 on: Monday 28 January 08 13:59 UTC (UK) »

Hiya all

Just thought I would add my lot to the mix

William Jones b 1824 parents John and Elizabeth nee Horton. elizabeth was born Wolverhampton

William was a carpenter who married Ann Maria Harley b 1825 Darlaston

They had children Annie (ggrandmother) b 1867, Esther b 1864, George b 1859, Susannah b 1861,  Emma b 1855, Eunice b 1852, Harriet b 1849 and Sarah Ann b & d 1859

As you said there were/are a lot of Jones's in Bilston

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #22 on: Monday 28 January 08 16:29 UTC (UK) »



  A long shot!!!

               Any Durkins?

                   Jackie.
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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #23 on: Monday 28 January 08 16:44 UTC (UK) »

Hi Jackie
None of your Durkins moved up to Barrow in Furness did they I had a friend at school and she was a Durkin .
My family around the Bilston area were Fieldhouses .
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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #24 on: Monday 28 January 08 16:47 UTC (UK) »

Hiya Roy

Don't forget the mines either - after all Bilston has a habit of dropping down into the shafts every now and then lol

Sheila did you go to Bilston cemetery?

Willow x
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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #25 on: Monday 28 January 08 16:55 UTC (UK) »


Hi Jackie,
not a long shot at all,
Plenty of Durkins and Durkans in the Holy Trinity records but don't seem to have much in my transcriptions.  I'll go through the images again as soon as I have time but can't today, I'm sorry.  If there are none there I'll look out for them on my next visit to the Archdiocesan archives.

Hi Willow,
I've not been to the main cemetery yet but I now have a grave number for my grandparents and great-grandparents so will do so on my next visit back to the Black Country.

Sheila
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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #26 on: Monday 28 January 08 16:56 UTC (UK) »

I have Joseph SMITH b 1789 Bilston no idea of his parents place and date from the 1851 census.
Fanny CRITCHLEY daughter of John (from her marriage) b 1848 Bilston from 1871 census
Plenty of people in Dudley including a family of Dudley in Dudley.
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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #27 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:11 UTC (UK) »


Claire, I have a Thomas Hartill as a godfather in 1887? 
I'm very interested in your Mary Dudley.  My GGGGrandfather was Benjamin Dudley and he married a Mary Johnson in 1810.  Although they had several girls, who all seem to have been baptised in Bilston,  none of them were called Mary but if he'd been married before (it doesn't say in the parish record) and already had a Mary, that would make sense.  Do you know anything more about her?


Sorry - took my time!
I haven't gone down my tree on the Harthill side so not sure about Thomas - will keep him in mind!
Mary Dudley was born in 1807 in Sedgeley. She married John Nicholls on 30 Jul 1827 in St Peters, Wolverhampton. They had a number of children - Thomas (1829), John (1831), Mary A (1833), Eleanor (1835) all born in Bilston, Jane (1837) (born Leamington), David Dudley (1841) (born Sedgeley), William Dudley (1845), Martha (1847), both born Tipton.
I have no information on her parents, but I hope this info helps!

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 12:35 UTC (UK) »

Hi all

Just a wee note for anyone searching for people actually born in Bilston pre GRO records bear in mind details recorded at St Leonards Church. These records are now held at Staffordshire Record Office, Stafford @ www.staffordshire.gov.uk though probably all you experienced researchers know this already.

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Re: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 12:49 UTC (UK) »


Thank you RoDe for that reminder by the way welcome to Roots chat I hope you are getting plenty of help and having fun exploring all the boards  Smiley
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