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Topic: Black Country (Bilston) Friends and Neighbours - more names (Read 5185 times)
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jacquelineve
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Hello Sheila
Re Mary Durcan
Quite possible. I know she and her husband James had
their 2nd.child bapt.at R.C.Dudley in 1853-their 1st born
Ireland 1849-50
No sign of them in Dudley in 1851,so likely they moved
to England between 1851-53.
I've been looking at Durkin marriages on the Deesegenes
site, especially interested in those where Rinaneel-Ruchane
+Moorehall are mentioned (Ballintober)
Jackie.
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DudleyWinchurch
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Hi Jackie,
I found my great-grandparents marriage (McDonough/Oliver) in Kilconduff. There are some baptisms there that might belong to my family too, but the site doesn't really give enough information to go on to narrow down where there are choices and, at 5 euros for each record (transcription only) looked at, it could quickly get expensive, and still need to see original sources, if possible.
Now I know where to look, I will probably need to get a film of the registers (and I'm planning my trip, of course  ).
I now know that my GGparents were married in Kilconduff in February of 1851 and had their first child in Bilston at the end of December. As at least one older child, possibly two (or more) were then born in Ireland, they obviously went back soon after but seem to have settled in Bilston by 1857.
Sheila
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk (Ireland)
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Harli
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Hi Dudley
Sarah's father was James Cox if that is any help. I am not sure who his parents were.
Best wishes
Harli
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DudleyWinchurch
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Hi Everyone,
I'm bumping this thread for a couple of reasons. One is that I've noticed we have a few more Bilston familes being discussed on the Staffs board recently and the other is to make an announcement (though it may be a little early).
If anyone is looking for catholic baptisms in Bilston, I have now started to enter the Holy Trinity Church baptismal index into a searchable (Access) database. Although there are now more than 1000 entries in the database, it is only complete so far for the "A" surnames. Bs and Cs should be completed soon, but it will be a while before I get right through the alphabet.
In the mean-time, I'm happy to check out any requests against the database and against the list of baptismal records I have already transcribed for my own research. When completed, it should be possible to list all children baptised in a particular family, for instance.
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McDonough, Oliver, McLoughlin, Cuthbert, Quirk (Ireland)
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tonystreet
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Hi Dudley
Just spotted your thread.
I just have Jones from Bilston, and in particular Simeon Jones born about 1816. Havn't found him yet.
However, if you haven't already seen this site, I thought you and all the other people searching for Bilston ancestors might like to have a look.
http://www.wolverhamptonarchives.dial.pipex.com/cholera.htm
Regards
Tony
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DudleyWinchurch
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Hi Tony,
welcome to the Bilston friends and neighbours thread.
Wolverhampton Archives have a lot of resources online relevant to Bilston. I do indeed have a relative on the cholera victims list.
If you read through the thread, lots of people have already added links to many sites of interest.
As many of my Bilston ancestors were catholics, I also have a lot of transcribed data from the Holy Trinity church registers so am happy to check for any names that anyone else is looking for. I don't think I have your Simeon on record anywhere as as yet.
Sheila
[modify: I am however, looking for a Charles Jones born 1812ish Shropshire ]
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tonystreet
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Hi Sheila
Many thanks. The only lead I have is that one of Simeons children was baptised in the Methodist Church, so the family migfht have dabbled in Non Conformism.
Tony
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RachelK
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Hi fellow Bilston researchers.
I have quite a few names that tie in with the Bilston area, all C of E as far as I'm aware with the exception of one marriage.
Mathew Ralph and Eliza Pitt, at the Queen's St congregational chapel. Anyone have info on congregationalists in the area?
I have a lot of Beebee's from Bilston, who also came under the name Beeby. I have a rough tree back to around 1695 where Thomas and Frances Beebee were included on the reverend's list of inhabitants. Names connected (potentially) include Fereday/Ferraday, Hawkesford, Moss, Webb, Hartshorn, Goodwin, Shale.
I have an ancestor Richard Beebee born c.1808 who appears to have been transported for 7 years for stealing bacon. The site on which I found the info doesn't appear to say where he was sent though, or on which ship?
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Staffordshire - Kendrick, Higgs, Ralph, Mears, Egginton, Simkiss, Beebee
Worcestershire - Kendrick, Onions, Timmins, Harvey, Stephens
Shropshire - Williams, Wilcox, Moreton, Poole, Stedman, Astley, Morris, Roe
Carmarthenshire - Naylor
Montgomeryshire - Williams, Wilcox
Middlesex - Silver, Martin
Suffolk - Chenery
Somerset - Owen, Chorley, Rugg
Lancashire - Evans, Silver
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Annie65115
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Hello to everyone 
I have a truckload of BRADBURY ancestors who were born in Bilston in the 1800's. Other names who married in include COOPER (Sedgley) and TAYLOR (Bilston).
If anyone has any links in their tree to BRADBURY from Bilston, (or indeed the Taylors or Coopers), I'd love to compare notes!
Muchas gracias
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Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington); Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston); Dyer (Stathern, Leic, Notts, Yorks); Kilner (Leic); Greenfield (Liverpool); Holyland (Leic); Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool); Tidd (Grantham, Notts); Hallam (Screveton)
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DudleyWinchurch
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Hi again,
just back from a long weekend away, so will look through for more later but RachelK, I definitely have details on more than one Shale family from the Holy Trinity registers.
[modify: Oops sorry, meant to suggest that you add some more details (first names and approximate dates) and I'll see what I have]
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RachelK
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Hmm, it seems the Shale connection is very tenuous. It was just a marriage between my ancestor Jane Beebee (born Bilston) and a Ferdinando Shale which took place in Birmingham. I couldn't find any children for them, and of course he might not have been a 'Bilston' Shale. So thankyou Sheila and Willow but any Shale's you have probably aren't in my tree. 
On another note Willow, I have found Hartshorn sisters (Mary Ann who married Richard Beebee and Eleanor who married Martin Pitt) both families lived in Bilston. The former being my nan's gx2 grandmother and the latter my grandad's gx2 grandmother - meaning my nan and grandad were 4th cousins. Bet they never knew that!
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Staffordshire - Kendrick, Higgs, Ralph, Mears, Egginton, Simkiss, Beebee
Worcestershire - Kendrick, Onions, Timmins, Harvey, Stephens
Shropshire - Williams, Wilcox, Moreton, Poole, Stedman, Astley, Morris, Roe
Carmarthenshire - Naylor
Montgomeryshire - Williams, Wilcox
Middlesex - Silver, Martin
Suffolk - Chenery
Somerset - Owen, Chorley, Rugg
Lancashire - Evans, Silver
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Trees
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I have posted a problem on the general board but friends on this thread may be the best to help with this tricky problem presented to me by a correspondent.
Kate HANSON died Dec qtr 1923 Pontefract district age 48 giving a birth year 1875
She was known to live in Castleford and had two sons Harry and Edwin
Alfred HANSON married Kate SMITH June qtr 1901 Pontefract District
1901 census RG13 4304 fo 101 p62 in Castleford
Kate Smith (born ap 1873) from Willenhall Staffs.Wid is Housekeeper to Alfred Hanson also wid
Joseph SMITH m Kate ARNOLD 1897 Wolverhampton District
A Joseph SMITH dies in1898 in Wolverhampton district age 25 giving a birth of 1873
Now it gets complicated
1891 census RG12/ 2234 fo 148 p 16 Willenhall
there is a Kate S (1877) from Willenhall sister to Henry Arnold who was 30 years older!from Willenhall
And 1881 RG11 2808 fo79 p34 again Willenhall the same Henry is unmarried with a sister Sarah (1877) from Willenhall and a visitor Kate BRITTON (1875) from Redcar Yorks. he married his Houskeeper Mary BOWDLER shortly after the census
problem 1 are Sarah (from the 1881 census) and Kate S (from the 1891 census) the same person?
problem 2 is Kate the same one who married first Joseph SMITH then Alfred Hanson if so why the strange date differences?
problem 4 Who was Kate Britton how does she fit in? We have found this:
RG12 3744 fo 137 p37
Joseph HARRIS 52 a fishmonger from Staffs Rushall?
Emma 52 Staffs Darlaston
9 Harris children from Yorks from 1869 on
including Kate 13
and Emma BRITTEN Daur M 25 Staffs Darlaston
Sam BRITTEN Grandson 7
It links both areas and the name BRITTEN could it give a clue why the newly widowed Kate went from Staffs to the Castleford area and remember Kate Britten from Yorkshire was visiting Henry A Arnold in 1881 so was she the Kate ARNOLD??
Henry is on my tree son of Edwin Arnold (remember Kate HANSON's sons were Harry-possibly a corruption of Henry and Edwin is this a coincidence?)
Who was Kate ARNOLD surely not Henry's natural sister We can not find a Kate in the BMD indexes
ANY HELP or Suggestions will be VERY welcome
A very puzzled Trees 
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Birmingham-BIRD,WILMOT Cornwall-BRAY,PHILLIPS,RULE Devon MARLES Hereford-HAMMER,HARTLAND,TOMKINS, NEATHERWAY Leicester-WILKINS Northampton-HAKESLEY,ELLARD Northumberland-EDMESTON,LIDDELL,LOGAN,WATSON Oxfordshire-ALLEN,DUNSBY, HADLAND, MERCER,NEEDLE Shropshire-HALL Somerset-BATTEN, PERKINS Warwick-MELLOR,STANFIELD,TAYLER,TIMMS Worcestershire-HARTLAND, HODGES, MARSHALL,MOULE,DANDY,THOMAS Pembroke-DAVIES WWW. http://www.mcmullin.plus.com |
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DudleyWinchurch
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Hi Trees,
tried to send this earlier but I think I must have broke RootsChat when I logged in and couldn't get back in again for ages.
I did a quick scan for Kate ARNOLD in the 1870s on FREEREG and the only two possibles that I could come up with were a Catherine in Wolverhampton 1873q2 (6b 520) and a Sarah Kate in King's Norton 1876q1 (6c 487). Kings Norton covered a much wider area than I had imagined as I was dismissing a marriage in that district for one of my relations but eventually sent for the cert. and it was actually at a Smethwick church.
Have you checked out these two already?
And Willow,
you seem to have done some very comprehensive research on the Bilston SHALES but have you seen the marriage cert. for Joseph and Sophia yet?
I'm only asking as one of the witnesses is listed as Nahomi Johnson in the available transcriptions and I wondered if it could possibly be Nehemiah. There are Johnson-Lowe connections too and they may also be directly connected to the Dudleys. William's grandmother was a Mary Johnson and one of their witnesses was Obadiah whose father was Nehemiah. It all gets so complicated.
Sheila
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Trees
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Hi Dudley. Yes I've checked both of those Catherine 1873 was
Catherine ARNOLD bapt 14 May 1873 St Johns Wolverhampton daur of Alice spinster Alice was daughter of George and Emma the lack of a Henry or Edwin in George's large family makes us cautious and if she is Alice's daughter the marriage certificate wouldn't show a father. To add to the confusion I have found Kate's death
I wonder if the sister Sarah/Kate was infact Henry's sister's daughter his mother d 1863 and his father was still living with Henry in 1871 and died in 1872 so didn't remarry and have a second family or move from Willenhall. As the sister was only 4 on the 1881 I doubt the place of birth would have been in question.
I'm getting more and more mystified
Very grateful for everyone's help I'm sure it will be solved
Trees
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Birmingham-BIRD,WILMOT Cornwall-BRAY,PHILLIPS,RULE Devon MARLES Hereford-HAMMER,HARTLAND,TOMKINS, NEATHERWAY Leicester-WILKINS Northampton-HAKESLEY,ELLARD Northumberland-EDMESTON,LIDDELL,LOGAN,WATSON Oxfordshire-ALLEN,DUNSBY, HADLAND, MERCER,NEEDLE Shropshire-HALL Somerset-BATTEN, PERKINS Warwick-MELLOR,STANFIELD,TAYLER,TIMMS Worcestershire-HARTLAND, HODGES, MARSHALL,MOULE,DANDY,THOMAS Pembroke-DAVIES WWW. http://www.mcmullin.plus.com |
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