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Anjo
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I have a Mary Ann Jennings born May 1850 in docking, Norfolk. In 1871 she is living with her parents With her daughter Grace Mary R Jennings b. 8 May 1870 (Also Docking) and this is the last I can find of ither of them on census
Ancestry have a marriage of Mary Ann Jennings June qtr 1876 to a James M Renant.
I have also found a personal entry of a Mary Ann Jennings marrying a James Mardaunt 4 May 1876.
I think this is the same Mary with 2 different transcripts of her partner the problem is I can't find them on the 1891 or 1901 or the daughter Grace could anyone help sort her out please.
I would really appreciate some help on this please. Thanks Anjo
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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krisesjoint
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 Got em 1891 Census
RG12/2634 ED 6 Folio 132 Page 11
8 Trinity Street
Gainsborough Lincolnshire
RENANT John M Head 40 Mar b London Grocer
RENANT Mary A Wife 39 Mar b Docking Norfolk
RENANT Grace M Dau 21 Unm b Docking Norfolk
RENANT Edwin J Son 12 b Gainsborough
HENRYS Arthur Boarder 24 Unm b Nottingham Nottinghamshire Fitter Engine
ELLIOTT Arthur Boarder 23 Unm b Nottingham Nottinghamshire Engine Fitter
Cheers Kris 
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krisesjoint
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1901 census 
RG13/3096 ED 58 Folio 11 Page 13
83 Lovett Street
Cleethorpes Lincolnshire
RENANT James Head 39 Mar b London Grocers Traveller
RENANT Marion Wife 37 Mar b Docking
RENANT Grace Dau 19 b Docking
RENANT Ernest Son 18 b Gainsbro Drapers Assistant
CROSS William Boarder 21 Unm b Sutton Bridge Lincolnshire Police Constable
Gotta be one of the strangest Ive ever seen Anjo....Names Ages But still it is the same family so the answer is basically they went to Lincolnshire and told porkys!!! LOL With an Officer of the law in the house and all!!!
Cheers Kris 
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Anjo
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wow, This is a bit of a mess.
the 1891 seems to make good sense but the 1901 is just a shambles. Did you see the actual entries for these families?
I do thank you for the lookups and all your time and trouble thanks again Anjo
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Anjo
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I still can't find her in 1881. Can anyone find her with her daughter Grace.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Possibly adding to the mess ??
1881
James RENAUT Head M Male 29 Grocer
Mary Ann RENAUT Wife M Female 28
G.M. RENAUT Daur U Female 10 Scholar
E.J. RENAUT Son Male 3 Gainsboro, Lincoln, England
Thomas SCOTT Boarder U Male 24 Haconby, Lincoln, England
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Source Information:
Dwelling 29 Wellington St
Census Place Gainsborough, Lincoln, England
Family History Library Film 1341786
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3296 / 101
Page Number 5
This is from IGI.
Jonathan
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It seems to me that the 1881 family is the same as the 1891 family but there is little chance that the 1901 lot are the same people. Nothing strange about 2 girls called Grace - those were family naming patterns and they may shared a common grandma. 
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Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa. Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Thanks for the 1881 Jonathan W
I think you have helped the mess. the 1881 and 1891 do sort of follow on and I can believe the families are the same but the 1901 is way out on all their ages. but the names and birthplaces all fit. If any of you have seen the actual census entry for this family in 1901 I would be glad of your opinion. Could be just an unclear entry and this was the best transcript that could be done??
Thank you All for your interest, Help and advice. I really do appreciate it. Thanks and if you come across anything else that would help me with this family please send it my way.
All the best Anjo
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Hi
The 1901 census image is very clear. The only thing to change would be the surname which is actually Renaut I think NOT Renant. The plot thickens ...
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Jonathan
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Anjo
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Well Jonathan you gave me the 1881 with the surname Renaut and n's and u's are easily mistook
I don't know the exact surname for James anyway as I have 2 options from 2 different entries for Mary Ann's Marriage.
Thanks for taking a look for me. Its all very strange but thats life I suppose
Thanks again Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Yes Anjo...I did c the images and I am convinced I did transcribe them correctly the ages r extremely clear in 1901 as r the names.....I would say the name could be either Renant or Renaut judging from the rest of the ns and us on the page they r very similar...I was getting 2 tired last night to go on and was going to find them in 81 this morn but c Jonathan has already found them so now u have the whole picture ....I donot know y the ages r so far out in the 01 entry but I am convinced it really is the same family...I just cannot c that it is not...just too many similarities and an unusual name...certainly strange to say the least though I have one family myself where in one census the couple r 20 years apart in age and in the next only a couple of years she has aged by 17 years where he has only aged by only 1 year ...This entry of yours all r out yet the places of birth fit picture perfect...With the name Mary Ann the name Marion I have often seen used....For Hubby U said James yet the entry clearly states John in 1891 ...as with the boy Edwin and then Ernest...I wondered if perhaps the police officer may have provided the info and was unsure of ages...(Maybe he had heard stories of where they came from so knew the answers.....Maybe Grace was batting her eyelids at the Police officer and didnt want him to know her real age so put all their ages down  ...lol-basically we can suppose all we like) I think it is one of those things that will never be explained...Reguardless of what the diff entries state I am convinced it is your family...Roll on 1911 wonder who and how old they will be then....LOL.....All the best with it...Glad to have found where they were for u if not exactly who  Kris
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Anjo
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THanks Kris for all your hard work on my behalf I do appreciate it. Thanks for checking it again. Like you say the names and birthplaces all match just for some reason their ages are different. Wonder what they will be in 1911??
Thanks again Angela
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Mary Ann Jennings married James Mordaunt Renant in 1876 (BMD Docking Jun 4b, 517).
Yes they did lie about their ages on a couple of the census
James was born 5 December 1847
He died in Cleethorpes in 1912.
I have been researching the Renaut tree (mis spellings are Kennent, Renant, Renault), as this is my mother-in-laws maternal line.
This James is one of my individuals I have not been able to connect to the tree, but I am 99% sure his parents were called James and Lucy.
The Renauts first appear in Norfolk in the late 1600's
They spread from Thorham, Holme Next the Sea area to Lincolnshire and County Durham and also down to London via Hertfordshire/ Essex.
If anyone has information I'd be grateful
Thanks
Trev
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Anjo
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Thanks very much Skippy for the added info. I am very grateful. do you know when his wife died??
I have sent you a pm. Thanks again for your help. Angela.
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GRINDEY/GRUNDEY- Stanton,Wetton and Mayfield in staffordshire. SMITH - Stanton, Ellastone, Staffordshire + Cheetham. Lancashire JONES - Ashbourne, Derbyshire. HUDSON - Snelston, Mappleton and Mayfield MILWARD- Mappleton,Thorpe, Fenny Bentley GIBBONS -Parwich. ALLCOCKS+WINT - Wetton JENNINGS +MELTON+Taylor- Docking Norfolk MACK - london and nottingham. STANFORD - Ely,Cambridgeshire Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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