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Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« on: Thursday 24 January 08 15:27 GMT (UK) »

Please could someone tell me, if someone died in

Shenley Hospital Elstree in the 1950's. Where would they be buried?

I know this hospital was treating the mentally ill.

Thank you.
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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 January 08 14:32 GMT (UK) »

Ideally, you could do with someone who worked there. Undecided  However, Shenley is equi-distant to St Albans and Barnet so I suppose that it is feasible that this person could have been buried in either place. Undecided

Some of Hertfordshire's mental hospitals were built to house Middlesex patients and records are kept at The London Metropolitan Archives.  Records for those that were administered by Herts, should be at HALS.

http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation/leisure_heritage/libraries_archives_museums_galleries/lma/

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24217.0.html

Here is a little background info for Shenley hospital from Chris Reynolds', excellent Genealogy in Hertfordshire site.

http://www.hertfordshire-genealogy.co.uk/data/topics/t070-long-stay-hospitals.htm

Here are the details for the department governing St Albans cemeteries.  They can be very helpful when trying to locate internments.

http://www.stalbans.gov.uk/leisure/parks/cemeteries.htm

This is all that I could find for Barnet.  It might be worth emailing them.

http://www.barnet.gov.uk/atoz.htm?type=82&filter=cvs

Other than this, I suspect that you will need a former staff member to answer your question.

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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 January 08 17:30 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Rick for all the infomation. I have seen Chris Reynolds site and it is very good.

People don't like to talk about mental illness.

I will keep at it and hopefully find them.
Thank you
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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 January 08 23:59 GMT (UK) »

Cu

In order to reach folk who may have worked at Shenley who may be able to help with this.  It might be worth writing to the letters page of a local newspaper.

There's no need to be specific about the individual.  You could just ask to make contact with anyone who worked at the hospital in order to determine where someone who died there in 1955 might have been buried.

http://www.stalbansobserver.co.uk/aboutus/history/

Just a thought.

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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 January 08 11:12 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for all your help in this. I will write and hope that someone can help me.

I just feel I must know what became of her.
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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 31 January 08 22:21 GMT (UK) »

Hi CU
First I would Try
Allum Lane, Elstree, BOREHAMWOOD, WD6 3PJ  020 8207 7497 I think this is the nearest.
2nd you could try
Carpenders Park Cemetery
Oxhey Lane, WATFORD, WD19 5RL This would be the case if they were registered for Middx
Or I would try
Watford
http://www.watford.gov.uk/ccm/content/leisure-and-community/cemeteries.en;jsessionid=6F6C34E5FDA6D40E466734AB52242A82
This is very close to where shenley was.
Try Allum lane I think they would at least point you in the right direction
I hope you do find what your looking for & let us know how you get on As I have never thought about this and my wife had Grt & Grt Grt Grandmothers die there in 52 & 70
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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 February 08 10:05 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Den, I have tried at Allum Lane Elstree but the first burial was in July 1962,

which is too late for my lady. I then tried Elstree church and they told me to try

Shenley Church. I have emailed them and they said they would take a look at the

register for me. I'm waiting, will let you know.

Cheers Grin
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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 February 08 10:24 GMT (UK) »

Hope you do find something
should there be a grave, i am in Watford so dont mind having a look for a stone,if you wish.
Its a pity it has closed down because years ago my wife wrote to them asking about her 2 and got a lovely letter back about their illness (dimentia) in both cases, but they never mentioned the funerals
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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 February 08 10:57 GMT (UK) »

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=O77494

This link says there are records but I don't know how much they charge for looking at them.

She wasn't a local girl and there is not trace of her at home with any member in their graves.

If you know what I mean, so she should be there somewhere.

Thanks for the offer, I will keep you in mind if I can find her.  Grin
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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 03 February 08 20:51 GMT (UK) »

I have just noticed your enquiry re: Shenley Hospital.  The hospital was actually in the village of Shenley not Elstree as you have written.  There is also a churchyard in Radlett in which some people from Shenley have been buried.  I do have a book on who is buried in Radlett Churchyard and can look up for you if need be.  The other place that you could try is West Herts Crematorium in Garston, Watford which is not to far from Shenley.  Where I work at the moment have got nurses that used to work in Shenley and when I go back to work from sick leave I could ask them if need be.  I hope that this could be of some help to you.
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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 03 February 08 21:52 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Shenley mental hospital was situated on the outskirts of Shenley village which lies between London Colney and Borehamwood. 

There was a church located on the edge of the village called St Botolph's which was subsequently replaced in 1839 by a new parish church, St Martins located centrally in the village.

The churchyard for both churches is opposite the original Shenley hospital site and can be found next to the old original church - this area is known as Shenleybury. 

At the entrance of the churchyard is a board of names, dates and positions of graves.  I have found relatives of mine who died in the 1940's & 50's who are buried there.

If you have no luck, I don't mind having a look at the chruchyard site when I am next in the area.

Good luck.
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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 03 February 08 21:57 GMT (UK) »

Thank you so much Maurella for your help and information.

I will PM you with the information.
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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 03 February 08 22:05 GMT (UK) »

Thank you Kayfr for your information. It would be wonderful if any of the nurses you know could

remember anything, but my late Great Aunty died in 1951. This may be to long ago.

I really am trying to find out where she would be buried. I will PM you with details.

Thank you your help.
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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 27 February 08 12:27 GMT (UK) »

I have still not heard from Shenley Church. Maurella tell me, that there is a board of the people

buried at the church at the entrance. Please does anyone live near to the church?
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Re: Local Knowledge Needed - Shenley Hospital
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 27 February 08 16:22 GMT (UK) »

I live near-ish and am happy to go and have a look for you if you let me know who you're looking for.
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