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1851/1861 look up please PLAYER
« on: Friday 25 January 08 20:43 GMT (UK) »

Hi all

Would anyone be able to find the family of Ellen Player b.1851 in Weston in gordano, Somerset? Her mother was Sarah Player b. 1826.

I'm hoping to find the name of Ellen's father and any brothers and sisters. I don't know Sarah's maiden name, so don't know if she can be traced back to the 1841 census? I'm assuming she married in the late 1840s or 1850.

Any help much appreciated
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Re: 1851/1861 look up please PLAYER
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 January 08 21:42 GMT (UK) »

Hi Moss,

This is the best match I can find for Sarah in 1851, so far I haven`t traced Ellen in 1861, can`t seem to pick up on her at all  Huh

Joseph Player, 70, ? Land, Born Henbury, Glos
Mary Player, Wife, 60, Born Portishead, Somerset
Ann Player, Dau, Unm, 39, School Mistress, Born Weston In Gordano, Somerset
Sarah Player, Dau, Unm, 26, Out Service, Born Weston In Gordano, Somerset
John Player, Son, Unm, 23, Ag Lab, Born Weston In Gordano, Somerset
Sarah Player, Grandaughter, 2, Illegitimate, Born Weston In Gordano, Somerset
Thomas Shipstone, Lodger, Wdwr, 39, Ag Lab, Born Henbury, Glos

Living in Weston In Gordano
HO107/1946/510/10


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« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 January 08 21:51 GMT (UK) »

Hi Moss,
             Found this in 1861 Portishead

Mary Player head age 72 retired
Sarah Player granddaughter age 12
Charles Player grandson age 10 b Weston

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 January 08 21:53 GMT (UK) »

Sue did you spot any possibilities for Ellen?


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« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 January 08 22:00 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sue,
        Found no trace of her at all. Is it possible she died. Still looking though.


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« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 January 08 22:06 GMT (UK) »



               1871 census Portishead

Mary Player head age 81
Sarah Player granddaughter age 21 occ shop assistant
Annie Garland granddaughter age 7 b Gloucestershire
Thomas Brown grandson age 2 b Portishead

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 January 08 22:10 GMT (UK) »

I`ve tried every search I can think of but still can`t find Ellen, I wonder if she did die?  Huh


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« Reply #7 on: Friday 25 January 08 22:13 GMT (UK) »


Also in 1871

Sarah Player Head age 45 occ lodging house keeper
Charles J Morewood lodger age 27 b Southhampton
Martha Brown Niece age 10 b Portishead
Mary Powell servant age 21 b Merthyr Cynog Wales

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 25 January 08 22:15 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sues

Player was Sarah's married name, I don't know what she was before. I was hoping if we could find Ellen in the 1861, (she would be 10) it would show her father and then maybe I could find a marriage record for him and Sarah.

Ellen married John Copestake in Bristol in 1873 but the 1881 census shows Sarah still living in Weston

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« Reply #9 on: Friday 25 January 08 22:22 GMT (UK) »

And in 1891 in Wanstead Essex


Sarah Player age 65 mother in law retired
John Copestake head aqe 48 b Derby
Ellen Copestake (Ellen Player) wife age 39 b Portishead
Frederick Coprstake son age 16 b Newport Monmouthshire occ Clerk

FOUND HER AT LAST.

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 25 January 08 22:25 GMT (UK) »

Well done Sue  Grin Grin Grin  I wonder where she was hiding in 1861  Huh


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« Reply #11 on: Friday 25 January 08 22:29 GMT (UK) »

And no trace of her before that?  Huh

I wonder where they all were? Maybe John Player that you found in 1841 was her father?

Weston in gordano is only a dot so there can't have been too many Players around surely? Hmmm..

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« Reply #12 on: Friday 25 January 08 22:30 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sue
       In 1851 census she is down as unmarried and i thought Mary was her mother. Her name didnt change  in other census.
If she married before 51 why didnt she have husbands name or have i got mixed up along the way. Huh Huh Huh

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« Reply #13 on: Friday 25 January 08 22:36 GMT (UK) »




   I have looked on the 1881 census and she is down as unmarried witha sister Maria Player also unmarried.

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 25 January 08 22:37 GMT (UK) »

No Sue you haven`t got mixed up  Smiley  The elder Sarah was listed as unmarried and living with her parents and daughter Sarah in 1851...........maybe she never actually married?
Moss have you any info regarding a marriage?


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