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Topic: Please help decipher census (Read 579 times)
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MonicaLesl
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Just too long looking at images of BMDs 
Likely in 1871 that Margaret has been entered as Marg. Baird McD and it's been indexed as Mary Bandon McD.
Let us know how you get on!
Monica 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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angusm
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Have just noticed this trail. At a glance, going back to the original question, the problem does not seem to have been resolved. The entry was evidently Ouist, a phonetic attempt at spelling by the enumerator and, setting aside speculation about a Skye connection, there is a Kilmuir in North Uist so the entry would seem to make sense.
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the pretender
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Thanks again to all,
Monica, the suggested death of Angus McDonald (Falkirk, 1864) was indeed correct and gave his death as drowning, age 40 with parents Donald McDonald (church officer) and Catharine McLeod. No luck with the marriage and 1841 census has only one fit so far at Hungladder, Kilmuir, Skye with Donald McDonald age 60 and wife Catherine age 40, children: Malcolm 15, ANGUS 15, Ranald 13, Catherine 11 and Alexander 9.
So many McDonalds and McLeods that I now will have to wait until I visit Edinburgh next and trawl through this line, has been one of the most annoying attemps at tracing a line I have come across and a lot of the successes were down to you.
best wishes,
Alan.
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STEWARTs from Leadhills, Sanquhar, Wanlockhead 1700 - 1980
STEWARTs from Drem, East Lothian 1820 +
STEWARTs from Edinburgh, Banefield and Murdoch Terrace general Fountainbridge area.
DUNCANs from Fife.
HENDRYs from Alloa.
NAIRNs who were highland crofters.
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keelbec
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Sorry, didn't see the earlier reply
Eric
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Shaw, Hossell, Bennett, Wilson, Mosby, White, Hicks, Bywater, Dyson all in Yorkshire
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PrueM
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Hard to imagine the O being put in as a phonetic mistake though and nobody fits from any census return but thats not to say it cant be so. The O on the census return could indeed be an A and the writing was so inconsistant the consonants could be almost anything.
Hi Alan,
It's really not hard to imagine a phonetic mistake - have you seen many census returns?!  Particularly at this time (1851) spellings were not set in stone, particularly if the place name was a Gaelic one - an English speaker could write it any way they saw fit.
I don't think the first letter of "Ouist" is an "A" although it is similar to the way the enumerator writes his As...I'm fairly certain, considering where the pen leaves the letter to go on to the "u", that it's an "O". The consonants in the place name (if that's what you are referring to) are quite clear so I'm not sure whether there is really a problem with deciphering this particular place name...or am I getting the wrong end of the stick? 
Cheers
Prue
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I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (LND, Banff) - SWAN (Fife)
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PrueM
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Ouist appears to simply be an alternate manner of spelling Uist, as evidenced by these references from 19th century books:
"On the 2nd, they arrived at the island of Erisca, belonging to Clan-ranald, which lies betwixt the isles of Barra and South Uist, or Ouist..." [Forbes, R (1834) Jacobite Memoirs of the Rebellion of 1745. Edinburgh: W & R Chambers.]
"When the herrings have once pushed their way to the southwards of the Ouist Islands they make a shorter stay at Mull, Isla, Jura, and Argyleshire..." [Lifford, JH et al (1861) A collection of tracts and treatises... Dublin: A Thom.]
The fact that it doesn't match up with other stated birthplaces is another matter, but I think everyone would have at least one person in their tree who gives randomised birthplaces in different censuses. My g-g-g-grandfather was born in Woodlands, Dorset, or Bath, Somerset, depending on which census you look at.
All I'm saying is: don't discount it just yet
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Paper and Photograph Conservator
I live in NSW, and am researching:
BALFOUR (Derry) – BIGG (Kent) – BONSALL (DBY, NTT, CHS) – BRISBANE (Fife) – DANKS (STS) – DOBSON (BRK) – FRANCIS (ESS) – GOODE (HAM) – HAYNES (Cork) – INGRAM (MDX, SOM) – LANGWORTHY (Jersey, DEV) – MCKAY (Fife, Aberdeen, Banff, Moray) – MORRISH (LND) – NANCARROW (CON) – OGILVIE (Moray, LND) – STRATHDEE (LND, Banff) - SWAN (Fife)
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angusm
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Just to correct one thing that could continue to cause a problem. Phonetic pronunciation of the Gaelic in the islands themselves does day by day sound Ooist and would not as suggested above arrive at Uist as yooist.
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