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Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton Completed
« on: Saturday 26 January 08 12:34 GMT (UK) »

I am searching for Henry Cullen and his family in 1891. I have the 1881 entry RG11/ 1076 87. Although I haven't got his Death cert, I think he died in 1896.

We have had transcription errors in the past and I think this may be another one.

Is there an easy way to find the enumeration district for Seymour Street, Brighton in 1891 in case he was still at that address.

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Re: Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 January 08 13:49 GMT (UK) »

Hi RBC,
              Have found 1901 census Croyden

Emma Simmonds mother age 57 b Ringshall Herts
George Simmonds head age 29 b Studham Herts
Henrietta Simmonds wife age 28 b Aylesbury Bucks
Kate Simmonds sister age 22 b Box Moor Herts
May Simmonds sister age 19 b Leighton Buzzard Beds
Dares Simmonds dau of George age 4 months b Croyden
Annie Cullen cousin age 24 b Brighton

     Hope this helps

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Re: Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 January 08 14:03 GMT (UK) »

Hi Again,

          Sorry cant find Henry or his wife in census. Maybe someone else will have more luck than me.


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Re: Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 January 08 14:13 GMT (UK) »


Hi both -

I tried too, nothing.
I also tried the address search on find my past, nothing.

Maybe the page was illegible or missing ?
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Re: Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 January 08 15:05 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sue and Mum

Thanks for looking. I did find Annie in 1901, yesterday, when I was looking for something else and one thing lead to another, hence the posting.

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Re: Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 January 08 15:10 GMT (UK) »

 Roll Eyes Probably no help at all but I used to live near Croydon where there was a Cullen baker's shop, any connection?

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Re: Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 January 08 15:17 GMT (UK) »

Hi Crystal

I don't think so, but you never know.

The males in three generations of my family were domestic coachmen. They have proved very difficult to trace. It would have been very nice if just one of them had been a baker and stayed in the same place for a few years.

Thanks for your interest.

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Re: Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 January 08 15:11 GMT (UK) »

As you have found,
the 1881 shows him as a coachman and his family at Seymore Street, Brighton. 

Ive got no 1891 but I think you ought to tell those that are looking for you, that he was born in Marylebone and his wife Annie in Hereford. 

FreeBMD confirms his death in Brighton in the December quarter of 1896 and shows two Henry Cullen marriages in Brighton (1887 & 1894)
The later one could have been his son Harry. 

Harry was still in Brighton on the 1901 census aged 24.
There was no Annie Cullen of Hereford on the 1901, had she died or remarried?
The Croydon entry you have for 1901 looks to be his daughter also called Annie.

What other children do you know of?

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Re: Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 27 January 08 15:26 GMT (UK) »

Thought I would add the Free BMDs Cullen births in Brighton between 1881 and 1896.  They may of course be totally unconnected and be children of other members of the Cullen family.

June quarter 1890 Cullen  Mabel Mary        Brighton  2b 241   
Mar quarter 1893 Cullen  William Henry     Brighton  2b 205   
June quarter 1894 Cullen  Nova (Nora?)     Brighton  2b 201
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Re: Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 27 January 08 16:54 GMT (UK) »

For what its worth, heres a bit more.

It looks like your Henry married an Annie Puddefoot in St Georges, London in 1875 (FreeBMD)

Although the age is a bit adrift, it is possible that Annie subsequently died in Brighton in the December quarter of 1886 (Free BMD).  If that was the case, the marriage of a Henry Cullen in 1887 may have been Henry senior remarrying in order to give a new mother to his young children.  Anyone seraching for him in 1891 should therefore be considering that he may have a new wife who was now called either Alice or Sarah Agness.

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Re: Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 January 08 07:34 GMT (UK) »

Hi Roy G

Thank you very much. I will reply to each message in turn.
Henry married Annie Puddefoot in 1875 in London. He was then living at Belgrave Mews.
I haven't checked the two Henry Cullen, Brighton marriages yet.
We haven't got the 1896 death certificate but it is a strong possibility. I will now send for it to see where he died and who registered the death.
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Re: Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton
« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 January 08 07:43 GMT (UK) »

Hi
I haven't checked the Brighton births they could well be connected.

My Ggrandfather George Cullen also lived in the area in 1881 at Victoria Mews, Hove.
Sadly he died in London in 1882. We have a copy of his Probate record. As I was going to the RO the other day I was just checking when his brothers died to look for similar records for them. That is what started this search.
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Re: Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton
« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 January 08 08:00 GMT (UK) »

Hi Roy
Your last message is the most interesting. I don't think any of us had considered that Henry may have remarried. We hadn't yet found a death for Annie. We will now go down that road. Thank you once again.
How I wish you were on our "team" we have several more missing bits & pieces.

Please would it be possible to combine this thread with Sussex Look Up Requests. Seymour Street Brighton 1891.

I won't do that again. I particularly wanted to look at Seymour street in 1891.
It seems that we have to accept that the page is missing, as are several other pages we would like!!

RBC.
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Re: Henry Cullen & Family 1891 Brighton
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 January 08 10:02 GMT (UK) »

Put a piece on the Sussex "Look Up Requests" for you.  One of the key things was a suggestion that you also try some old Street directories.

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