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Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« on: Saturday 26 January 08 14:43 GMT (UK) »

So, so sorry about the error before...  Embarrassed
I have now corrected it...

Hello,
Please, if I am in the wrong place for this or am asking for information not available, let me know and please accept my apologies in advance...
I am still unclear what access there is to most English records...

I am hoping that someone can have a look at the following record for me?

Gloucester prison
http://uk.geocities.com/becky62655@btinternet.com/gloucester.html

1834 Evans job U Minchinhampton Q/Gc5/5 painter Gaol

A real mystery Man... Very little information about him before his arrival here in Oz...

Job Evans b. Abt 1813 He is my 2nd Great Grandfather and was transported in 1835 on the Ship Marquis of Huntley. I have obtained his documents here (marriage and death certs etc.) but none have even given his DOB (years all differ) Parents unknown. I have no idea if he had any siblings.

Thanking you for bearing with me... Grin

Darlene

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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 January 08 15:38 GMT (UK) »

Hi,
       The IGI has a marriage for William Kefford and Mary Abby in Cambridge 1808,there is a christening for a Job Kefford 1809, Cambridge,parents as above.....did he change his  surname name?? I'll go and have a look on the IGI for siblings
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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 January 08 15:49 GMT (UK) »

I am so Sorry, Big Error...(stupid!) Huh

Job Evens b. abt 1813 Gloucestershire, Parents unknown...

the one's you have found are also mine, they are my 3rd great Grandfather and 4th Great Grandparents...
Job Evans married the daughter of Job Kefford in Australia.


Hi,
 The IGI has a marriage for William Kefford and Mary Abby in Cambridge 1808,there is a christening for a Job Kefford 1809, Cambridge,parents as above.....did he change his surname name?? I'll go and have a look on the IGI for siblings
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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 January 08 15:53 GMT (UK) »

LOL Darlene,join the club ,there's no one as stupid as me Grin
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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 January 08 15:56 GMT (UK) »

LOL Thank you for your understanding Grin
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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 January 08 16:01 GMT (UK) »

Hi Darlene

I'll be looking up the gaol record for another person later this week in Gloucester Archive, so will also search for your Job.  Thanks for finding the ref. number.  It saves time.  If you look at the previous request by williamscdr for a gaol look-up, Keziahemm has explained what information you can hope to find in the record.  

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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 January 08 16:04 GMT (UK) »

Thank you Gillg,
That is fantastic.
I will go and have a look at the information now.

Cheers
Darlene
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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 January 08 16:07 GMT (UK) »

Google Gloucestershire parish records,it'll be the first one up,(I can't paste the link)...click on marriages,where it say's census and military records,then scroll down to Minchampton,1802 to 1812 ther are 4 marriages for Evans ranging from 1802 to 1808..
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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 January 08 16:14 GMT (UK) »

That's a really useful site to add to my Favourites, hepburn.  Thanks.

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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 26 January 08 16:32 GMT (UK) »

Thank you hepburn,
I will go and google it now.
Darlene
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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 27 January 08 13:16 GMT (UK) »

Hi Hepburn,
Thank you.
What a great site...
I am getting very excited now, another step closer to finding his parents...I wonder which marriage? (thinking aloud!)
Cheers
Darlene

Thank you hepburn,
I will go and google it now.
Darlene
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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 15:31 GMT (UK) »

This is what I found in the gaol records, Darlene:

10 June 1834  Job Evans Minchinhampton age 20  Painter
Height 5ft 3in. Hair dark brown, eyes dark brown, complexion sallow, face long.  Larger wart on right thumb.  Wart on 2nd and 3rd fingers left hand.  4 moles on left arm.  ?? 3rd joint middle finger.  Can read but not write. 

Charged on the oaths of John Heskins, Cornelius Bown, Harriet Lovett and others with having on the 6th day of June instant feloniously to have taken and carried away one wether sheep, the property of the said John Heskins from a field in the parish of Horsley.
Verdict: Guilty  Sentence: Transportation for life
Sentenced at Summer Assizes 9 August 1834
Conduct: Orderly

Job was sentenced along with Yesan Risby age 22 of Horsley for this crime and both received the same sentence.

It certainly seems a harsh punishment, but it could have been a death sentence at that time.  Sorry there was no information about his family and no definite date of birth.  I could have a look next time I'm down at the RO in the Minchinhampton PR to find his baptism and any family details.  The only Job Evans born 1814 on the LDS site is from Yorkshire, so rather unlikely!

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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 20:18 GMT (UK) »

Hello Gillg,
Thank you so very much.
This information is fantastic...
Yes please... I would really appreciate it if you would keep him in mind and have a look for a baptism when and if you have the time...
You have given me such a lot, as his records here do not give much at all...
Thanking you kindly
Darlene
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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 05 February 08 16:55 GMT (UK) »

Darlene

I have looked for Job Evan's baptism in Minchinhampton without any success.  If his gaol record is to be believed, he was 20 in 1834, so born c 1814.  I searched between 1810 and 1820 but didn't find him, although there were several Evans families around at the time, so these are Evans baptisms

18 April 1813 Jane, dau of James and Mary Evans.  James's occupation seemed to read My (Military?) & Army.
12 Sept 1813 Sarah dau of William (labourer) & Ann of Pinfarthings (on the edge of Minchinhampton Common)
17 Apr 1814 William son of Thomas (mill man) & Ann
14 Aug 1814 Harriet dau of Thomas (labourer) & Sarah of Littleworth
21 Aug 1814 Maria dau of George (weaver)& Elizabeth of Box
17 Sept 1814 Rebecca dau of William (weaver) and Rebecca of Box
20 Oct 1816 Charles son of George (clothworker) & Ann of Bourne
4 Dec 1816 Eliza dau of Thomas (wheelwright) & Eunice
All these places are close to Minchinhampton

I had a look in Horsley PR, since the theft took place there and Job's companion came from there, but only found
25 Dec 1815 John son of John (cordwainer) & Esther
2 Jun 1816 Charles son of ditto

All of which doesn't help much unless Job and John from Horsley were the same person.

Sorry I can't help more. Cry

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Re: Gloucester Gaol - Look up Please - Job Evans
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 06 February 08 04:39 GMT (UK) »

Hello Gil,
Thank you ever so much,
Now at least I have a starting place to dig...
I have found him in two other records over here today and he was listed as "John" so the one you found (25 Dec 1815 John son of John (cordwainer) & Esther) looks like a possability?
Again thank you so very much for all your time...
I sincerely appreciate it.
Cheers
Darlene
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