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BETSEY SMITH/ WIFE OF NELSON BUCKLAND
Scarrott family
« on: Sunday 27 January 08 22:46 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help with finding out about  William Scarrott married Margaret Whitehouse 16th Sept 1793 Cannock
They possibly had 2 sons William & John
need some help please
family were earthen ware dealers
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SMITH JAMES STANLEY LOVELL LEE PENFOLD ORCHARD BOSWELL BROADWAY
AREAS OF INTEREST CORNWALL DEVON USA
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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 January 08 23:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Don't have information as such, but I live in Northampton and there is a family called Scarrott who still (well I think) have a travelling fair.

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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 January 08 01:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tiggi

John Scarrott..............  Parents William and Margaret (Whitehouse)

Christened 7/10/1796 Cannock Stafford
Died 1/4/1851 Wootton Berks
Buried 5/4/1851 Ramsdon Oxford

Marriage Sarah Dore........ 23/3/1818 Charlbury Oxford.

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My Direct Line Boswell, Lee and the
Smith's (whoever they were)?   Also                             
Orchard, Penfold, Crocker, Buckland, James.
Cornwall, Devon. Somerset, Northamptonshire.

Sherwood. Goslett, Dickenson,    WILTSHIRE.  WALES
Kavanagh, Galvan, Coffey, McClusker.      Ireland
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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 January 08 06:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Tiggi

Still no luck finding William, but have found a few more children of William & Margaret (Whithouse),

Mary Ann  Christened  26/4/1807  Witney Oxford
Priscilla           "           12/2/1809   Witney Oxford

Eliza                "          10/4/1812   Witney Oxford
Buried 25/5/1858  St Thomas Oxford
(Marriage5/10/1830 to William Dore Charlbury Oxford)

Charles           "            11/6/1815   Witney  Oxford  died 1871
Rebecca          "            15/5/1817   Charlbury Oxford 


Probably more children including William will keep looking, seems this branch of the Scarrott's married into the Dore's a fair bit,

Colleen
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My Direct Line Boswell, Lee and the
Smith's (whoever they were)?   Also                             
Orchard, Penfold, Crocker, Buckland, James.
Cornwall, Devon. Somerset, Northamptonshire.

Sherwood. Goslett, Dickenson,    WILTSHIRE.  WALES
Kavanagh, Galvan, Coffey, McClusker.      Ireland
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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 January 08 11:05 GMT (UK) »
Marriage for William Scarrott & Margaret Whitehouse
16th Sept 1793 Cannock Staffordshire

Still trying to puzzle through children
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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 January 08 11:22 GMT (UK) »
Did they have a son called Esau? -

1841 HO107/873/5 Folio 32 Page 12
Thames Street, Charlbury, Oxfordshire
Esau Scarrott 39 Dealer in Earthenware N
Sarah 40 Y
James 17 Hawker Y
Caroline 15 Y
Sarah 11 Y
Phoebe 10 Y
Esau 8 Y
Cornelius 4 Y
Mary 2 Y

also in Charlbury (hamlet of Finstock) HO107/873/7 Folio 5 Page 4 -
Charles Scarrott 25 Dealer in Earthenware Y
Hannah 25 Y
Elizabeth 6 Y
Charles 3 Y
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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 January 08 11:34 GMT (UK) »
hi Catone
I think Esau is related to family but not sure if son or maybe even a brother to William still trying to piece it all together

The problem I am having is this i am trying to find the wife of James Smith he was my Great Grandmother's Betsey  father confirmed on marriage
now it has been suggested James Smith married a Eliza or Elizabeth Scarrott
I found a marriage 1831 Ipstones Staffordshire for Elizabeth Scarrott to James Smith both aged 21 
What I am trying to do is place her with a Scarrot family
I have spoken to a family relation and they seem to think she could be a daughter of a John Scarrott b 1801 but on 1841 & 1851 Oxfordshire census, there is no Elizabeth child to him, so i am wondering if she is a sister
we also know of a William Scarrott who had daughters Susan & caroline married Wiliam & joseph Orchard ( brothers)1843/1842 in chipping norton oxfordshire

It could be John william & elizabeth are siblings of William & margaret Whitehouse or elizabeth belongs to another Scarrott family you can see my problem but thanks for your help
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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 January 08 15:07 GMT (UK) »
hiall
              i was sent some info on this family a long while back, i dont have any dates and it would need checking the children i have down for William and Margret are as follows:
Williamc1794
John c1796
Thomas c1798
Meriah? c1799
Esau c1800
James c1800
Ann c1806 Married john Loveridge ?
Maria/Mary c1807
Sophia c1809
Phoebe c1810
Eliza c1815
Charles c 1815
Rebecca c1816
i know its not much but i hope it helps a bit
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travellers: Penfold,Holland,Orchard,Loveridge,saunders,James,Davis
Somerset/devon: Hawkins,Lane,Perryman,Saffin,Bowden,Warren
Yorkshire/Lincolnshire: Webster,Gleadell,Gott,Patrick,Milnes, Beverley
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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:06 GMT (UK) »
Have you been in contact with Glyn Hatherall? He has done a one name study on Scarrotts
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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone
Matilda can you contact me we have chatted before regarding Debs USA Penfolds have something for you about them and did you say you related to Smith family ?
I have been searching with help from Colleen in Australia she found interesting site about Scarrott family from a Mary wiltshire via Genes reunited ( not able to access this myself)
looks promising that James Smith may have married a Elizabeth Scarrott b 1826 finstock Oxfordshire her father being William Scarrott b 1794 married a Jane Brice only other child listed was Rebecca b 1832
Willliam Scarrott b 1765 married a Margaret Whitehorse b 1774 they had 9 children
their 1st son William Scarrott b 1894 was Elizabeth father
i still need to check all information out but as a relation has also said he was told about Elizabeth marrying james smith seems we maybe on right track
Hi smileyFace
Yes i have seen Glyn Hatherall postings on internet but think it maybe another family as he says they were Clock makers not travellers
Like most families we have variable spellings for surname and yes they all called kids same names really helpful lol
but hopefully we will find them eventually many thank everyone
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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 January 08 19:03 GMT (UK) »
just going back to work will pm you when i get in Matilda Wink
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travellers: Penfold,Holland,Orchard,Loveridge,saunders,James,Davis
Somerset/devon: Hawkins,Lane,Perryman,Saffin,Bowden,Warren
Yorkshire/Lincolnshire: Webster,Gleadell,Gott,Patrick,Milnes, Beverley
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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 January 08 21:45 GMT (UK) »
Tiggi 
                    ive pm ed you .would love to no  what you have on penfolds
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Yorkshire/Lincolnshire: Webster,Gleadell,Gott,Patrick,Milnes, Beverley
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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 January 08 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Matilda
I was told William  ( old Bob) Penfold ( no dates i am afraid) married a Defiance Smith they had William James Selina
William married Jenty Buckland James Married Sophia Buckland Selina married Joshua Buckland all children of Plato Buckland, there maybe a daughter Harriet who married Henry Buckland son of Tenet Brother to Plato

also Defiance was sister to James Smith they also had asister Louise who when Defiance died lived unmarried with Old Bob Penfold
now Tenet daughter Edith married a Wisdom Smith father was John Smith on marriage it lists a louise as witness and plato Buckland
I think that Defiance Louise John & james were all same family
Makes sense thats how children all met up don;t you think?
let me know what you think please
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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 January 08 23:46 GMT (UK) »
Hello tiggi, The william scarrott margaret  whitehouse line of scarrotts are travellers - well they were all mostly earthenware dealers- william and margaret had mine and glyns 3x gt grandfather John Scarrott, and amongst others, William who married Jane Brice.  I wasnt aware that Elizabeth had married a James Smith as i am very interested in this, as John Scarrotts son Theophilus (my gt gt grandfather) married a Rhoda smith(born about 1847), father William Smith and ive never gone further back on the Smiths and this has given me a line to look at. Theophilus older brother Shadrach was with the Bucklands on one census (1851 i think) as you say James Smiths sister Defiances children marry Bucklands.  My Rhoda Smith/Scarrott becomes later a Brinkley having children with Valentine Brinkley and then later is with Christopher Smith (Rodney Gypsy Smiths uncle) and is a Smith again.Does anyone know the ancestry of James Smith and his sisters Defiance and Louise?      best wishes Elizabeth
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Re: Scarrott family
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Tiggi
               this is what i have Robert Penfold  married Fiance/Defiance Smith around 1854 they had Eliza, James, William . Fiance died 18/11/1863 in devon . robert then married/lived with her sister Louisa they had Thomas, betsy Harriet, Fiance, Rachel and Charlotte. louisa died sometime before 1891.
Robert was the son of John and Harriet Penfold nee James.
i have Louisa and Fiance down as children of James smith and Eliza Scarrott/ Scarett (daughter of william and Margret ) other children were Selina William Harriet Betsy, Peggy and Britannia , dont know who James Smiths parents were. dont no if that helps at all Matilda Wink
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travellers: Penfold,Holland,Orchard,Loveridge,saunders,James,Davis
Somerset/devon: Hawkins,Lane,Perryman,Saffin,Bowden,Warren
Yorkshire/Lincolnshire: Webster,Gleadell,Gott,Patrick,Milnes, Beverley
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