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AnnieOZ
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Hello Everyone
Just wondering if anyone can offer some explanations on departure points for Scottish people emigrating to Australia in the 1860's.
I've found the Oz arrival records of my family, who were born in Dundee to Irish parents,....one came out on the "Morning Star" which departed Liverpool on 19th November 1863 and the others came out on the "Burlington" which departed Plymouth on 7th January 1865.
I'm wondering if these would have been "normal" departure points for someone living in Dundee?
I can understand Liverpool but Plymouth seems such a long, long way away from Dundee? How would they have travelled all the way down there?
Would Plymouth have been more acceptable for someone leaving in Ireland?.....The reason I ask this is I suspect that after 1861 (in which census they were living at 27 Ann Street, Dundee) the family may have returned to Ireland as I can find no further Scottish record on the family that remained behind.
(I'm currently in the process of researching Irish death records to prove this)
Any thoughts much appreciated.
Cheers
Annie
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Lynch, Dundee; Scotland. Armagh; Ireland
Wallace, Dundee/Arbroath; Scotland
Hendrie, Armagh;Ireland
Nielson/Nelson; South Australia
Johnston; South Australia
Brown; South Australia
Terrell; Cornwall
Angove; Cornwall
Trengove; Cornwall
Wilson; Cumberland, Durham
Reay; Cumberland
Barwise; Cumberland
Weiler/Wheeler; Luxembourg, South Australia
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Rowana
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Hi Annie,
I think that you'll find that in the early to mid 19th century, travel by sea was much more common than we would think. Remember, this is the era of railway development, which is the only other serious mode of transport at this time. Either that, or walk.
I myself have people in my tree who came from somewhere in Ireland to Stonehaven at this time, and I believe that they either came by sea to the west coast of Scotland and then walked/came on horseback or more likely I think, came by sea round the north of Scotland to Aberdeen. One of my reasons for suspecting this, is that my G-G Grandfather not only had his wife, but 3 small children with him. The youngest was born in 1846 in Letterkenny, Donegal, and the next one was born in 1851 in Stonehaven, so I think overland travel was a bit unlikely. One of the children that came from Ireland eventually died in Tolcarne, Penzance, Cornwall, so they got around a bit!
I think that your ancestors quite probably travelled from Dundee to Plymouth by sea. They may not have gone direct, and may have changed ship somewhere else. But where? Gravesend? Sheerness? Perhaps there were companies at this time offering emmigration "packages" from other seaports like Dundee. An early "Thomas Cook" for instance!
Liverpool looks a more likely departure point from Ireland, but you never know!
I've not done any research on emigration myself, but this is my understanding of how it was back then.
Good Luck!
Jim
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