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MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« on: Monday 28 January 08 07:43 GMT (UK) »

I have a William Vincent MILLER who died during WW1 and I have found some records which indicate he was born c1892 to Charles Richard & Elizabeth MILLER.
William served in the 10th Batallion, East Yorkshire Regiment and those papers state he was a native of Willerby, Hull.  At the time of his death his parents were at Council Cottages, Stokham, Retford, Notts.
I am interested in any further information that I could gain on William's family, especially the MILLER side.
Appreciate any advise as to where else I could look for information - many thanks,  Sashar

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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 January 08 07:52 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sashar,

I can see him in 1901 - any use?

1901
RG13/4471 66 4
Cottingham Without, Yorkshire
Mill House Woods Lane - North Gate
4 rooms occupied

Charles Richd Miller, head, 39, Asylum Attendant, b. Yorks Beverley
Elizabeth, wife, 33, b. Durham Coxhoe
Charlotte Theresa, dau, 12, b. Yorks Willerby
Wm Vincent, son, 9, b. do.
Sarah Maude, dau, 7, b. do.
Grace Isobel, dau, 4, b. do.
Sarah Jones, visitor, wid, 57 (or 51), Asylum Nurse, b. Durham Coxhoe 

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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 January 08 08:02 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tati,
Yes, that would be the right family.   You were very quick!
That's quite interesting as I know another family member either worked or ran an Asylum in either Yorkshire or Gloucester.
I would be very interested if you can follow the family further for me.

Thanks so much -  Sashar
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Derbyshire:  Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia:  Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth
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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 January 08 08:04 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sashar and Tati

This looks a little sad - they may have lost another son?

1891 RG12/3915  112/8 Yorkshire Willerby
Charles R Miller head M 29 Asylum attendant Yorkshire beverley
Elizabeth do wife M 23 Durham Coshoe
Charlotte T do daur 2 Yorkshire Willerby
Charles E do son 1 do do

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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 January 08 08:14 GMT (UK) »

Sashar

You should find Charles on the LDS (or ancestry) in 1881 with parents John Charles and Mary - and many siblings! They look to be a good family to research - all have middle names  Cool
RG11/4754  88/20

Trish

Edit: Just noticed father John Charles was born in Austria - Vienna - Tati - how is your knowledge of Austria? You live a little closer than me  Smiley
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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 January 08 08:17 GMT (UK) »

Possible Marriage:

Mar 1888 Sculcoates 9d 167
Charles Richard Miller - Elizabeth Richardson 

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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 January 08 08:30 GMT (UK) »

I think this is 1871 - transcribed as Mitter - Dad doesn't know where he was born

RG10/4768 35/12  1871 Yorkshire Beverley St Mary
Tyar lane
John Charles Miller head mar 32 Wine merchant porter United States new York
Mary do wife mar 31 Yorks Beverley
Charles R do son 9 scholar do do
Mary T do daur 4 do do do
William R do son 2 do do
Sarah ? do daur 4 mo do do

Trish

The names match 1881

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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 January 08 08:49 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tati and Trish,
I haven't as yet had a chance to look at LDS but sounds promising.
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Edit: Just noticed father John Charles was born in Austria - Vienna
This MILLER family thought they had a German connection somewhere, it's interesting you've found this connection to Austria.
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John Charles Miller head mar 32 Wine merchant porter United States new York
Now I am confused!

Thank so much for what you've found for me - I'll get onto LDS now and have a browse - kind regards,  Sashar
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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 January 08 09:05 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sashar

I can't easily find 1861 - it's dinner time here - I'll look a little later - may have to wait for Tati to find it - John Charles & Mary may not be married at that time - He may be in Vienna or New York  Huh

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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 January 08 09:12 GMT (UK) »

Look to be just married  1861
RG9/3569 70/16 Yorkshire Beverley St Martin
Well Lane (I think)
John C Miller head mar 22 Serg in Her Majesty's Army America N.B.S
Mary do wife mar 21 Yorks Beverley

NBS - Not Brit Subj?

Finding his father could be useful - hope they were in UK in 1851!

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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 January 08 09:26 GMT (UK) »

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This looks a little sad - they may have lost another son? 1891 RG12/3915  112/8 Yorkshire Willerby
Charles R Miller head M 29 Asylum attendant Yorkshire beverley
Elizabeth do wife M 23 Durham Coshoe
Charlotte T do daur 2 Yorkshire Willerby
Charles E do son 1 do do



The Charles E MILLER missing in the 1901 Census has to be alive somewhere as I have just found some old notes and he was Charles Edward b.1890, married a Harriet unknown.  They had a son William Vincent MILLER b.1920 at Witherby (he was named after the WVMiller killed in WW1) and my sister married his son.

John C Miller, Sergeant in Her Majesty's Army America N.B.S. - getting very interesting?

Thanks again,   Sashar

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Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire:  Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia:  Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth
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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 January 08 09:33 GMT (UK) »

Ooooh, shame on me! I forgot young Charles in 1901  Embarrassed

He's at home allright, age 11 

Sorry  Undecided
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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 January 08 09:38 GMT (UK) »

Hi tati,
No problems - that's good news he was there all the time, don't have to do a www looking for him.
Much appreciated -  Sashar
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Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire:  Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia:  Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth
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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 January 08 09:46 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tati and Trish,
I've just had a look on GenesReunited and there are 3 people with a John MILLER born Austria.
Hopefully I might be able to get a reply Grin

Regards,  Sashar
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Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire:  Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia:  Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth
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Re: MILLER William Vincent b.c1892
« Reply #14 on: Monday 28 January 08 10:05 GMT (UK) »

This is probably the marriage - I can't find John Charles in 1851, but the marriage will hopefully have name of father

Marriages Mar 1861   
Hustwick  Mary Sculcoates  9d 233   
Miller  John Charles Sculcoates  9d 233

Will have a look for Mary in 1851

Trish

Good luck with the GR - Might be interesting to see what was happening in the world 1861/71 where he gives his birth as US  or perhaps his father travelled with the army?

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