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Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« on: Monday 28 January 08 14:09 GMT (UK) »

Am unable to followup info on Birth Cert.
Father Richard Rangi Lloyd-Davies (Of independent means)
Mother Kathleen Fiorenza Vittoria Serbath? Heard.
Address Doremy Cottage, Chyngton Road, Seaford.
Advice or help would be appreciated.
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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 January 08 14:11 GMT (UK) »

Welcome - what exactly are you trying to establish from the Cert ?

When was it ?
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 January 08 17:53 GMT (UK) »

The birth certificate is for a birth in 1931.
I am trying to locate info relating to the births and deaths of the parents.
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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:05 GMT (UK) »

One step at a time.

I have looked in the birth indexes, and as it is possible that the person who's certificate yuo have could well be alive still, I wont post the details. However, looking at the only Lloyd-Davies birth in 1931, it does say that the mother's maiden name is Roberts. Does that tie up with the cert?

So the first step I would say is to find a marriage for Richard Lloyd-Davies to Kathleen ? ? ? Roberts.
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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:19 GMT (UK) »

I'm assuming the birth was registered as Lloyd-Davies ?


I ask in case the fathers name was included altho they werent married, but the birth regd as Heard ? ?


and are we talking about a Newhaven registered birth ?
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:24 GMT (UK) »

Silly me - I've modified now to read 1931!!!

Good point - praps we need to wait till Bill confirms.

Though I must admit I have just searched 1930 back to 1925 marriages! Found 3 Lloyd-Davies, one of which was in Wolverhampton as was the birth I found, but none Richard!

If you want details, just ask!
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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:33 GMT (UK) »

The person whose cert' we are discussing is still alive but of no use to our research.
The surname is Lloyd Davies.
The father whose occupation was of independent means was Lloyd-Davies.
There is no hyphon on the cert'.
The mother was a Heard; no mention of Roberts was far as we know.
Newhaven District.
Seaford Sub-district.
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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:38 GMT (UK) »

No marriage of Richard Lloyd-Davies to anyone 1924-1932 incl.
(4 Lloyd Davies marriages found)

If it is under Davies - that's a whole different ball game! Must be hundreds!

Presumably the birth must be under Davies then too - as I found the only Lloyd Davies birth in 1931 and the maiden name was Roberts on that.

Beginning to look more tricky.



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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:42 GMT (UK) »

is Heard a less common name than Davies?

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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:44 GMT (UK) »

The person whose cert' we are discussing is still alive but of no use to our research.
The surname is Lloyd Davies.
The father whose occupation was of independent means was Lloyd-Davies.
There is no hyphon on the cert'.
The mother was a Heard; no mention of Roberts was far as we know.
Newhaven District.
Seaford Sub-district.
is Heard a less common name than Davies?


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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:47 GMT (UK) »

Heard is not an uncommon name but with her unusual Christian names I thought  that I would have more luck than I have had.
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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #11 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:50 GMT (UK) »

from 1920 you have to search the index qtr by qtr, for a BMor
sometimes it helps if you locate the eldest known cild to the couple and then work backwards from same.

but you would assume that they were born prior to 1920 with a child born in 1931.

working on looking for them!  Wink
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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #12 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:52 GMT (UK) »

Her Birth Index entry may not have all those christian names shown .....

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Heard is not an uncommon name but with her unusual Christian names I thought  that I would have more luck than I have had.


a marriage would really help !
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #13 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:53 GMT (UK) »

seraching the fullBMd 1866-1920 for a Kathleen Heard birth only brings up 24 options.
none have a middle name of Fiorenza Vittoria but one does have a middle initial of F:~

HEARD Kathleen F    mmn. Smith   West Ham.4a   753   Q4   1915  

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SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 years
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
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Re: Advice on Birth Certificate follow up
« Reply #14 on: Monday 28 January 08 18:53 GMT (UK) »

not all the time middle names were included inthe index unfortunately,
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SMA is the biggest genetic killer of children under the age of 2 years
1 in 40 of you carry the gene that passes this conditon on
There is no current treatment
JTSMA.ORG.UK  FSMA.ORG  PROJECTCURESMA.ORG

Tomorrow is too late

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