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hazelnuts01
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« on: Tuesday 29 January 08 08:14 GMT (UK) »
I am searching for information about Maggie A Donaldson /Weightman who married Robert Jones Wilson in 1920. On the marriage certificate she is 21 but I have not found anything else about her.
Found a death certificate for a Maggie A Wilson  dated 1962  -   but would like to find a birth for her.
She gives her mother as a Maggie Donaldson and father as Daniel Weightman - I expect that may be a step father.   Can anyone help?
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Re: maggie a donaldson
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 09:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi HN

There is a marriage for a Daniel and Maggie:

1898   WEIGHTMAN   DANIEL   DONALDSON   MAGGIE   AUCHTERARDER   /PERTH   329/00 0001

Maybe start from there?

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Monica  Smiley
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Re: maggie a donaldson
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks a million Monica - tried Scotlandspeople and it didn't come up for me !

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Re: maggie a donaldson
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 10:15 GMT (UK) »
I get the feeling that this going to be a sad story  Cry

That very same year, there is a death:

1898   WEIGHTMAN   MAGGIE       DONALDSON   F   38   PERTH   /PERTH   387/00 0472

In the 1901 Census, Daniel looks to have remarried a Christina. You won't find it on the Ancestry index  Undecided (or not that I can easily see!) but they show on Scotlands People living in Methven Perthshire under the spelling of WIGHTMAN. A child Maggie and another child Diana also show in the household entry.

A possible second marriage for Daniel:

1899   WEIGHTMAN   DANIEL   DRUMMOND   CHRISTINA   METHVEN   /PERTH   380/00 0004


Let me know how you get on...... Wink

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Re: maggie a donaldson
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 10:24 GMT (UK) »
Maggie WEIGHTMAN's birth reg. was in 1898 in Perth ~ may account for mother's death most likely.

What I can't figure is why Maggie shows so young on the 1901 census entry. It would have to be where the smudge is on the page  Roll Eyes, but it has been transcribed/looks like x months  Huh

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Re: maggie a donaldson
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 10:39 GMT (UK) »
haven't found that yet - but when I found (daughter) Maggie Donaldson's death - under Maggie A Wilson - it says the mother's name is "not permissable"  -  what does that mean, and why?
That was on Scotlandspeople
Found the marriage, by the way, after making the dates a bit wider (even tho you had given me the date!!!)
Thanks again
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Re: maggie a donaldson
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 10:42 GMT (UK) »
With the arrival of the new extended indices on SP, you can search past the on-line viewing year of 1957, however, some info such as mother's maiden name is still restricted as you are finding. There are notes on SP regarding this issue (including on the search screen) for explanation.

Likely entry for Daniel in the English census in 1881:

Ann WEIGHTMAN      Head      W      78      b. York, England            
Daniel WEIGHTMAN  Son      W       46      b. Crosthwaite, Cumberland, England      Quarryman (Slate)      
William WEIGHTMAN  Grand Son      13     b. Crosthwaite, Cumberland, England      Scholar      
Daniel WEIGHTMAN  Grand Son     11     b.  Crosthwaite, Cumberland, England      Scholar      

Address: Grange Village, Borrowdale, Cumberland, England

Monica
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Re: maggie a donaldson
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 10:49 GMT (UK) »
 Cry What a co-incidence. Daniel's mother looks to have also died just after he was born. This is his 1871 entry in Keswick:

Ann Weightman    67, b. Yorkshire, England
Daniel Weightman 36, b. Grange, Cumberland
John Weightman    7, b. Grange, Cumberland
Thomas Weightman 5, b. Grange, Cumberland
William Weightman 3, b. Grange, Cumberland
Daniel Weightman 1, b. Keswick, Cumberland, England

Is Daniel's mother showing as Mary on his MC to Maggie? There is this death:

Deaths Sep 1870   
Weightman    Mary    24    Cockermouth    10b   317

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Re: maggie a donaldson
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 10:52 GMT (UK) »
Daniel Snr. and Mary's marriage:

Marriages Sep 1863   
Armstrong    Mary        Cockermouth    10b   629   
WEIGHTMAN    Daniel         Cockermouth    10b   629

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Births Sep 1869   
Weightman    Daniel         Cockermouth    10b   466
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Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Re: maggie a donaldson
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Have now caught up with the birth cert.    and I cannot make it out either (could it be 18 months?)- but is is definately the right one !!!   strange that Daniel lost his mother too, isn't it?
Many thanks for all your help
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Re: maggie a donaldson
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 07 February 08 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Think I have found all the information I need on this one

Thanks everybody

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Re: maggie a donaldson
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 07 February 08 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: MonicaLesl on Tuesday 29 January 08 10:15 GMT (UK)
In the 1901 Census, Daniel looks to have remarried a Christina. You won't find it on the Ancestry index  Undecided (or not that I can easily see!) but they show on Scotlands People living in Methven Perthshire under the spelling of WIGHTMAN. A child Maggie and another child Diana also show in the household entry

I'm not sure if you sent the entry to Hazel, Monica, but here it is from Ancestry. I found it by searching for Diana. Smiley

Address: Main Street, Methven, Perthshire
Daniel Wightman, m, head, 30, wood carter, England
Chrestina ", f, wife, 27, wood carter's wife, Methven, Perthshire
Diana McLovren ", f, dau., 9, scholar, Perth, Perthshire
Maggie ", f, dau., 10 months, -, Perth, Perthshire

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Re: maggie a donaldson
« Reply #12 on: Friday 08 February 08 18:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Hume  Smiley  No, I never did find that entry on Ancestry, I think by that stage I was all searched out and seeing double  Tongue

Regards.

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Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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