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bowes
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I am looking for a marriage for Alexander Crombie as well as his baptism. He was originally from Phesdo, Kircardineshire.
According to sources, he succeeded in ownership of Thornton Castle. He had a son Alexander in 1872, and a daughter Eleanor, who I think never married. Alexander eventually emigrated to England, where he married Mabel Mary Cookson, the daughter of the Rev O Cookson of Holbeck. They emigrated to South Africa and he died in 1925 in Rhodesia.
If anyone can assist me I will be greatly appreciative.
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Jackie
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Jackie
This looks like Alexander's birth entries on IGI, all extracted record from the OPRs:
ALEXANDER CROMBIE Birth: 29 NOV 1836/ Christening: 15 MAR 1837 Marykirk, Kincardine, Scotland
Parents:ALEXANDER CROMBIE and MARY HARRIETT RICHARDSON
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Monica 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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thanks so much monica.
did you find a marriage? or am i pushing it:)
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Jackie
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MonicaLesl
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You are not pushing it  I was just trying to get my head round the family!
These are the other siblings to Alexander:
2. MARY CROMBIE Birth: 02 JUN 1835/ Christening: 20 AUG 1835 Marykirk, Kincardine, Scotland
4. FRANCIS CROMBIE Birth: 25 JAN 1838/ Christening: 11 MAY 1838 Marykirk, Kincardine, Scotland
I'm sure you have the family in Tonbridge Wells in 1841, but I'll put the entry down just in case:
Alexander Crombie, Ind, 40, born outside the County
Mary, 30, b. Scotland
Mary, 6, b. Scotland
Alexander, 4, b. Scotland
Frances, 3, b. Scotland
Now, Alexander Snr. looks to have died just after this census. From Will & Testaments on SP:
Crombie Alexander 01/01/1841 Revd, Doctor of Laws, residing at York Terrace in parish of Saint Marylebone in county of Middlesex and of Phesdo in county of Kincardine Inventory; List of Arrears of Rents; General Disposition Stonehaven Sheriff Court SC5/41/8 ~ there are more entries relating to his estate
Also from SP Wills & Testaments, there are numerous entries for son Alexander estate following his death, such as:
Crombie Alexander 05/10/1877 esq., of Thornton, county of Kincardine, d. 22/07/1877 at Cheltenham, testate Stonehaven Sheriff Court SC5/41/25
I'll have a look now for the next generation.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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MonicaLesl
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This looks to be Alexander b. 1836 in the 1871 census in Scotland:
Alexander Crombie Jun 34, Waster To The Signat (! trans.) b. Marykirk, Kincardineshire
Elizabeth Crombie 19, England
Margaret Diffie 28, servant
Anne Dunne 14, servant
Harriet Russell 54, servant
Jane Towns 22, servant
Address: Thornton Castle, Marykirk, Kincardineshire
I wonder if the marriage took place in England and not Scotland. There is this entry which may be a possibility:
Marriages Sep 1870
Crombie Alexander Glendale 10b 507
Marshall Elizabeth Glendale 10b 507
Do you have the name of children Alexander and Eleanor's mother to be able to confirm some more details? Were they born in England?
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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MonicaLesl
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Oops, Alexander b. 1836 didn't die in 1877 as I thought, was it his father then? I think I'm getting confused with generations & Alexander Snr.s 
From the 1881 Census:
Alexander Crombie 44, Writer To The Signet (!), b. Marykirk
Elizabeth Crombie 29, b. England
Alexander Crombie 9, b. Edinburgh
Eleanor E Crombie 6, b. Marykirk
Josephine Christensen 32, servant
Mary Murray 19, servant
Jane Porterfield 23, servant
Christina Strachan 29, servant
Mary Trotter 45, servant
Annie Wilkie 25, servant
Address: No 4 Magdala Pl, Edinburgh St Cuthberts
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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MonicaLesl
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That marriage entry in England looks good. This looks like son Alexander's birth:
ALEXANDER CROMBIE Birth: 22 DEC 1871 Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Parents: ALEXANDER CROMBIE and ELIZABETH MARSHALL
To same parents:
ELEANOR ESTHER CROMBIE Birth: 10 JUN 1874 Marykirk, Kincardine, Scotland
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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MonicaLesl
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Elizabeth Marshall looks to have died relatively young at the age of 34 in 1885 in Marykirk. If you decide to look at her death cert. on SP, it will include full details of her parents and mother's maiden name.
Not sure what happened to the family in 1891. I think I can see Alexander, husband, boarding in Edinburgh and showing as farmer, age 54, born Marykirk but can easily as yet find children Alexander and Eleanor.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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bowes
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Phew Monica, this is just so great!
Thanks so much. I really appreciate it.
They seemed quite a well off family. I know that the Alexander B1871 married Mabel Mary Cookson, and I have from there. However, I don't have them in the 1901 census. I think they were in England at that stage, as they were married in 1899 in Essex. I am trying to see when they came over to South Africa. Some sources say 1901 and yet on find my past, it has Alexander coming over in 1903.
There were so many Alexander Crombie's it gets so confusing 
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Jackie
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MonicaLesl
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I've just seen the marriage in 1899. I think Alexander b. 1872 was probably already down in England by 1891. There is an entry in Egham, Surrey for an Alexander Crombie, 19 b. Scotland at a boarding school there. Sister Eleanor is proving more elusive!
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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i have seen the one of Alexander b 1871 at Halbrake College. I have tried googling the college to find out if it was a boarding school, but no such luck yet. Don't have sister Eleanor either.
This family seems to have moved from scotland to england to scotland and back to england, al,ost as if they could not make up their mind:)
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Jackie
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MonicaLesl
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jackie
The 1891 entry I was referring to was at Scaitcliffe, Egham Surrey. Not sure what the address is, whether a lodging house for students at another college or what? This Alexander shows as 19 so born c. 1872.
Cannot like you see an entry for Alexander and Mabel in 1901. There is one Alexander Crumbie born in Scotland 1871 lodging in North England but he shows as single so not your man.
I haven't got access to 'find my past' so can't work through with you on that one sadly. What additional info is included for the 1903 entry?
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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Jackie
Love the description of daughter Mary Elizabeth's wedding: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/COOKSON/2007-08/1186923981
Her birth entry is case you don't have the refs:
Births Jun 1900
Crombie Mary Elizabeth Tendring 4a 712a
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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MonicaLesl
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I've also got the hang of who what where on Thornton Castle:
Thornton Castle, a mansion in Marykirk parish, Kincardineshire, near the right bank of the Black Burn, 3 miles W of Laurencekirk. An ancient Scottish Baronial edifice, bearing date 1531, but supposed to be partly much earlier, it was repaired about 1822, and greatly improved about 1846. John Strachan, knighted in 1375, obtained from his father the lands of Thornton; and Alexander Strachan of Thornton was created a baronet in 1625. The sixth baronet was Admiral Sir Richard Strachan, G.C.B. (1760-1828), distinguished for his naval services.Alex. Crombie, a successful and much-esteemed advocate and land agent in Aberdeen, acquired the property in 1804. He was succeeded by his cousin, the Rev. Alex. Crombie, LL.D., F.R.S. (1760-1840), the author of several well-known works; and his grandson, Alex. Crombie, Esq., W. S. (b. 1836; suc. 1877), holds 2300 acres in the shire, valued at £2632 per annum.—Ord. Sur., sh. 57, 1868.
Source: www.geo.ed.ac.uk/scotgaz/features/featurehistory4642.html
These now connect with all the Wills & Testaments I was seeing on Scotlands People 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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thanks monica.
in the 1903 entry on find my past, it just shows me Alexander Crombie departing from liverpool for cape, south africa. I dont have subscription there either:(
The wedding announcement is so funny:) But at least it gives us a lot to work from. I now know that the honeymoon was in Redhouse - just need to find it in Rhodesia; looks like Eleanor the sister of Alexander who was born in 1874 never married; and Mary Elizabeth resided in Rhodesia. Lots of odds and ends in that notice. Thanks for finding it.
I now have a load of information to go through tonight. Thanks again
Regards
Jackie
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