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sydenham road cheltenham
« on: Tuesday 29 January 08 14:59 GMT (UK) »

This seems a long road.
My ansectors lived "Sydenham Lawn" Sydenham Road
They lived there in 1881 census and 1891 census. All houses seem to have a name not a number. Does this house still exist ?
Is there a photo?
or can anyone take one if it's still there ?

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Re: sydenham road cheltenham
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 19:47 GMT (UK) »

Hi Argentina

There are references to Sydenham estate here

http://www.cheltgaz.ukpc.net/


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Sydenham estate. Termed thus in 1868, when building land on the estate was being offered for sale (Examiner, 19 Feb.). Comprises approximately the block east of Carlton Street and north of the London Road. Development appears to have been rather slow, extending into the 1900s (with more modern infill). Term still in use in 1898: ref. to 'all the Sydenham Estate roads' June 1898 MTC, i.e. Sydenham Road, Sydenham Road South, and Sydenham Villas Road. A Sydenham Cottage and Sydenham Lodge listed on east side of Hales Road in 1870 directory may perhaps predate the main development. Name presumably intended to evoke the London Sydenham, which became a fashionable suburb after the construction of the Crystal Palace in 1854; though a more local origin (e.g. from Sydenham in Upton St Leonards parish) is also possible. This could suggest a thematic link with neighbouring Cranham Road.

I should be in the vicinity in the next week or so - remind me if I forget!

kind regards, Arranroots  Wink
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: sydenham road cheltenham
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 January 08 23:29 GMT (UK) »

Much appriciated Arranroots, hope you find the house still there
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Re: sydenham road cheltenham
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 07:55 GMT (UK) »

Can you give me the census references for your family, so that I can get an idea of where to look please?

Will have a play with the 1881 when I get the chance!

Wink

Edit: I have found the FRANKLIN family in 1881 - that gives me a location to work on.  Most of the houses are still there I think - with extra ones built in their gardens!!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: sydenham road cheltenham
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 30 January 08 15:43 GMT (UK) »

In 1881 Samuel Franklin and Annie D Franklin had Eliza Laslett,and Sarah E Wheeldon as house servants and there was a Joseph Mulcock as well who was a cabinet maker

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Re: sydenham road cheltenham
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 31 January 08 12:50 GMT (UK) »

I have also found on the same page another member of the family Burman Edwards and Mary A Edwards with 2 children and a servant. He is a retired estate Agent. and they live three doors down on the same road in a house called "Morecombe"

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Re: sydenham road cheltenham
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 May 08 17:40 BST (UK) »

Hi Argentina

So sorry for the long delay - life gets in the way!

I went to look for the house today.  Mixed news!

The roads around there are muddled - divided into Sydenham Road North, SR South and Sydenham Villas Road.

Looking at the censuses I think Sydenham Lawns should be near Glenroy - which I found in SVR.  Fleetwood is next door the other side in SRS & I found that.  There aren't really any older houses on the same side of the road but opposite is one of the right sort of size (?) and age.  Unfortunately it is currently being done up - gutted.

And so am I!

After an hour in 27 degrees of heat I still have no photo for you!

I did find this when googling (although I don;t think the photo is of the house you want - might be worth contacting the person?)

House History Website

I will see what else I can find & report back if I find anything helpful.

Sorry!

Kind regards, Arranroots  Wink

p.s. Thanks to the lovely people who tried to help me - they are lovely  around there!
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: sydenham road cheltenham
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 May 08 19:16 BST (UK) »

p.s. I have registered on the site I linked to above (Not easy without giving your inside leg measurement!) and sent a message to someone calling themselves Sydenham Lawn.

Watch this space!

(or not, lol!)

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY, BOYLE (DUNDALK)
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Re: sydenham road cheltenham
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 May 08 12:21 BST (UK) »

Thank you Arranroots.
Thank you very much for your work in the sun. Hope you didn't get sunburnt. You are very kind. I shall await your findings.

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